Families Run on Facebook

Families Run on Facebook While I was on vacation a few weeks back, there were as many as four families sitting around the table at our rented place by the lake. Granted, we all knew each other from the net, so we’re not exactly a “normal” sample. But what I noticed every morning when I joined the fray (I was a relative late riser at 7:30AM compared to everyone else who had some interest in watching the sun rise), was that they all logged into Facebook to see the pulse of their friends and family. Facebook was second right after email (which is the world’s first priority for screentime). Families run on Facebook.

In the little New Hampshire town 10 minutes from the lake place we rented, I stopped into the drug store to pick up a prescription for Kat. The woman at the cash register (about 40) was talking to another coworker who was about to leave. She said, “Okay, I’ll Facebook you later, if we decide to go out.” Not, “I’ll call.” She’d “facebook” her later. The verb.

I’m not a very big fan of Facebook. I have an account. I am near the upper limit of friends (have been over it 4 or 5 times, but culled another 500 the other day because they think there should be a limit on my connections), but I also have a private account, where I friended only my family. In that account, I can see the pulse of things going on in their lives. I can see photos from their events, can see news of people’s health, all those things we used to send letters to convey. I get it, at least in that context.

For marketing? I’m still not there yet. Still feeling it out. Still trying to divine the formula.

But I totally get that families run on Facebook.

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  • http://www.canadavirtualassistant.ca/ CMColeman

    By using the lists feature in FB, you can choose to share or not share your posts with specific lists. I will friend business acquaintances and immediately add them to the “Professional” list which does not allow them to see my pictures (I don't think they need to see summer vacation photos), or any other information that I want to be there for friends and family.

    Same goes for updates – I will select the group to share the update with based on whether it's for business or personal. It's not perfect, but saves my family from some business chatter.

  • http://www.LightTravels.com Carolyn Winter

    Chris – here the link to what I thought was a wonderful graphic that explains the privacy issue at Facebook and how it has changed over time. Facebook for families would be wonderful except for the changing rules on privacy. http://mattmckeon.com/facebook-privacy . My concern is for those not aware enough to use them or that you now have a part time job keeping your personal stuff private.

    I agree with some of the others that FB for business would be a good place for content but I feel very leary about building a business there. It seems to me that you could put in a lot of time, money and effort into building your business through FB and get something very worthwhile going, and then – poof, if it suits FB they will take it away from you – just like they did with default privacy settings.

  • http://www.ann-sense.com/ Ann Marie van den Hurk, APR

    I think for marketers, there isn't a magic formula yet to reach the people you want to. Comes down to how the person uses Facebook. For me, Facebook is very personal and used to share our family life with friends and family in all parts of the globe. I'm not looking to buy anything while I'm sharing videos and photos of my son. I advise businesses if Facebook fits your business and customers then participate fully.

  • abccreativity

    i had a great article written about my and my work in a local paper last week because of a connection i'd made on facebook – a connection i couldn't have made in real life. (my friend posted a link to my blog on his page, his friend, who was actually a friend of an ex-girlfriend of his, saw it and joined my email list. after a few months of emails she responded that she was a reporter and loved my work and would like to do a story about me)

    i also get people i don't know sign up for my creativity workshops via facebook because they see it on their friend's pages.

    and people i don't know well see photos of my workshops and think they look fun and they sign up.

    i've gotten a lot of business from my personal facebook page – i'm not spamming anying, i'm just sharing what i'm up to with my work. because i'm interesting and my work is interesting, people check it out. i have a page for my business too but don't have a real plan about how to use it yet – that is on my list of things to do.

  • http://www.accuconference.com Maranda Gibson

    I get it for families. My family and I stay connected on Facebook and it's good for us because we're scattered around the US. It's easy to update a wall posting and tell my family what's going on. The downside is that, to me, Facebook takes away some of the “closeness” of a family. Recently, my grandmother passed away after an illness and while I had spoken to a cousin on the east coast on the phone regularly in the days leading up to her death. When she actually passed away — it was a posting on this cousin's Facebook wall that notified me. Not a phone call — not even a text message. This is the danger of Facebook.

    Marketers would do well to remember that using that kind of a feed can take the personality out of an interaction. It doesn't make it special anymore. I just don't think Facebook is quite there yet.

  • PartyWeDo

    Chris,
    Families will always find the best tools to “run-together”. It is mostly driven by love, even though many won't admit it. These deep rooted ties cause us to stay involved and pay attention to the lives and needs of those we love, no matter the distance.

    Facebook has created a bridge the covers any distance between those we love and always want to run with.

    The idea that you have created a niche Facebook account for your personal family members demonstrates that even in a world of mass communication opportunities, love still wants to be a private party.

  • Carriehill

    I only discvered my sister was off on a two week holiday the other day via a comment she'd made on my facebook status. The fact that we are a close family that do talk and we all work together, it surprised me alittle that I hadn't known about her holiday before hand. I wasn't upset and didn't mind it just struck me as amazing how facebook has become so intergrated in to our daily lives, that we are already taking it completely for granted. I speak to my friends while they are on holiday, something I would never have done before, and during this summer holiday I am sure there will be nothing left for the kids to tell each other when they get back to school. I am a facebook fan btw and have just set up my 66 year olds mother an account so she can keep track of all of us. :0)

  • http://twitter.com/rustyspeidel rustyspeidel

    That's exactly how I use it. With occasional nods to high school and college friends that are real, legit friends. Business? Not so much. In fact, I specifically avoid using my personal profile in a business context. It just feels weird. Wonder why?

  • rod

    I appreciate that you question the value of Facebook for marketing. I've kind of felt like someone who knew the emperor was stark naked, but kept silent in order to go with the flow. I too am struggling with how conversations about Farmville translate into brand equity, or some other tangible marketing objective. So I guess it kind of makes you the “kid” who said what many probably think.

    And yes, we use it to plan family events and such.

  • kwright

    I like to keep things as simple as possible, so I use Facebook for personal relationships and LinkedIn for business ones. My challenge comes in the form of friendships that have their origins in business – sometimes there's a bit of a blurry area in there that makes it hard to say “no” to a friend request from someone I really like but who I wouldn't consider a part of my personal network. Work in progress, for sure, but I am absolutely clear that, at least for my own line of work and the type of client I work with, I need to keep my family updates separate from my professional network. Call me old-fashioned……

  • http://tommy.ismy.name Tommy is my name

    I use my Facebook with two very different purposes…

    My family and friends are what I use my personal account for and the fan pages for anything business related…

    I've yet to see anything that can match the targeting of the ad platform, so in that sense, Facebook is a great place to build a community on fan pages, much easier than building a community around a blog ( I think anyways) because you're targeting people based on their interests… and that just can't be beat…

    Facebook has built itself to have a very personal feel, so I'm not really comfortable building my business persona out on it because that's not how my friends and family see me. Linkedin, Twitter, and any Third Tribe… they can totally have my business persona, because that's how I intend to use those platforms.

  • http://twitter.com/charityestrella Estrella Rosenberg

    Like everyone else here, I love facebook for its ability to keep me updated on my family both near and far, and friends I wish I had the time to talk to more often. For those people you're not geographically close to, or don't see/talk to that often it allows a much richer relationship because you get insight on the little things that really make up someones life an who they are.

    On the business end I think it depends on your business, but in general I think it works best as a tool to cultivate and engage your community. Because my businesses are non-profit's facebook is fairly useful in many regards. Not only can we communicate more easily with our donors (and have conversations with them in easy, transparent ways) we can perform parts our mission via facebook. We follow other organizations within our cause field and can easily identify new partners. We can out out calls for specific help that get answered tons faster than if we sent an email…and because of facebook's share feature they go out to tons more people. We once found help for a child in 16 minutes this way. The families that need our help even communicate with us via facebook and because they can post on our fan page wall they create direct connections between them and our supporters and donors. I wrote about a particularly fantastic example of that a couple of months ago in this post: http://adventuresinphilanthropy.com/2010/05/25/

    I can see why it hasn't felt like it's clicked for you for B2B…but I think it's an excellent tool for discussion of your books both past and present and a selling ground for them in the same way twitter can be. People mentioning what books they're buying or reading always piques my interest.

  • Kelly Rigotti

    Hi Chris,

    I just skimmed the comments, but it seems to me that your 'business' Facebook profile should be turned into a Facebook page. Tamar Weinburg has a great post explaining how and why, as does Darren Rowse. (Sorry- I don't have time to find the links). You'll have to ask your business 'friends' to become a fan of the page before you delete the profile, as there's no easy way to transform the friends into fans, but in the end it'll be a lot easier to manage…and you won't have to deal with that pesky 5000 friends limit!

    Best,
    Kelly

  • http://twitter.com/FAVORGAVER FAVORGAVER

    Chris,

    You're definitely right about the e-mail thing. I actually check mine throughout the course of the night on my iPhone. Every time I wake up during the night, I tap my e-mail app. Probably not very healthy. It's also the first thing I do when I open my eyes in the morning.

  • http://twitter.com/svencm svencm

    Hi Chris,

    Our family is quite large (11 kids) and they all log onto FB at least once daily to see what is going on with their siblings, especially being geographically dispersed. And, when they decide to through a birthday party or other event, we are all invited using FB events.

    There is, in my opinion, a large potential for marketing here to the consumer. I am not sold on B2B marketing at this time though. It seems that most businesses are geared towards the consumer and are pushing in that direction. LinkedIn seems more appropriate for B2B marketing.

  • http://twitter.com/mikeatqazam Michael Senchuk

    Totally agreed, Chris. I'm not convinced of its use for marketing either, but I know I keep in touch with a number of my friends through it, including my brother and his wife, who are posting throughout the day as they make their way back after buying/picking up an RV across the country.

  • http://twitter.com/ThingsBright Elizabeth Drouillard

    Depending on the day, Twitter and Facebook vie for number one. I have to remind myself to check email. I get a few newsletters on it, and people over 40 still email me. Everyone else FBs. I would gladly have the newletters delivered to FB and get rid of email entirely.

  • http://twitter.com/StartupSidekick Jason Sullivan

    I've had mixed results with Facebook when marketing. It has plenty of potential, but I've yet to experience any breathtaking results. I still believe that Google Adwords is a better advertising medium at this time, though I do expect Adwords to lag behind Facebook at some point in the near future.

    Jason
    http://twitter.com/StartupSidekick (Follow me on Twitter for fresh entrepreneurial advice)

  • http://www.honeybeeconsulting.com startabuzz

    Chris, I can see where you're coming from with regard to a B2B marketing standpoint. But for some businesses? Facebook is ideally-suited.

    I work with a good number of Realtors and real estate-related businesses and, for them? The fan pages, done properly, work beautifully. The same holds true for small, neighborhoody types of businesses, like boutiques and restaurants. Many of those have built strong communities that are fiercely loyal to their “liked” brands. So, does FedEx need to keep tabs with Levis on Facebook? Absolutely not, but remember that Facebook's usefulness, from a business perspective, isn't limited to that sort of scenario.

    Rick Stillwell made a comment below about looking at Facebook purely from a business/marketing perspective. When you do that, you miss a lot of what Facebook is all about: making and fostering real, very personal relationships. When you talk about being limited to 5000 friends, I ask why you'd *want* more than that, or even that many. If you're interacting — for real — with all of those people, then maybe it's a valid complaint, but how would that even be possible? On Twitter, it's possible to interact with thousands of people, and to have off-the-cuff, spur-of-the-moment exchanges, but Facebook takes more effort, I think. Facebook isn't about exchange of knowledge and information so much as it's about exchange of life experiences. And I love it.

  • http://twitter.com/DaveKerpen Dave Kerpen

    Chris – As you know, I'm a huge fan of yours. I do continue to be surprised at your not liking Facebook for marketing. 500 million users liking millions of Pages per day? Facebook provides all of the opportunities for organizations to engage customers and potential customers that Twitter provides, with a lot more opportunity for scale, multimedia, apps, & customization. The same way you have found it valuable to connect and share with your family – organizations can connect and share with customers, customers can connect and share with orgs, and most important, customers can connect and share with each other. stride rite (disclosure: client) is 1 of my favorite examples of the latter: http://facebook.com/striderite has thousands of moms connecting with 1 another each day – around stride rite and shoes, but more meaningfully, around their kids and parenting experiences. Your thoughts?

  • http://twitter.com/SimpleCEO Michael Werner

    Chris, we'll certainly keep you posted… our primary market is K-12 teachers… and they're ALL OVER Facebook. Currently working on a plan to get there, after using our blog and Twitter to make pretty heavy inroads into the market.

  • Laurinda

    I agree! I'm finding it a great place to re-connect with old friends. I 'Like' lots of pages, so it's becoming a reader for various sites & blogs. But I hate when people push their product/blog without cultivating some kind of relationship. I find I 'unfriend' them real quick.

  • http://themoneycoach.com The Money Coach

    Thank you! I did not know that. Learn something new every day (well, in my case I seem to be learning about 156 new things about SM every day…) Thanks again for helping me.

  • http://twitter.com/karimkanji Karim Kanji

    Interesting post. I think with many social media tools, the marketing is about being relevant and timely with good content that people will talk about, share and like.

  • Cristina Proano

    Chris, Facebook for me is a great marketing tool and at the same time the best way to reconnect with old friends and to make new friends. There are many people right now I love dearly, who share my same vision and whom I know I may never meet them in person.
    I am an Ecuadorean living in Georgia, USA. I opened a fan page for my company and realized that I needed to have two fan pages in order to convey my tips and secrets to my two fan categories: English and Spanish speaking.
    It took me around 9 months to get 1500 fans on my English fan page. It took me 3 months to have 2600 fans in my Spanish fan page. Those who make comments in both fan pages I have requested to be my FB friends. That has been incredibly useful because the see me as a human being who loves to eat, has great time with the family or sends pictures of my beautiful country when I'm there.
    I cultivate my friendship with them and then they turn into my clients. It takes more time, but FB has been my major tool for that heart connection that is so important for my business.
    Now, I have created different friends lists. There's the Spanish list, the Relatives List, the English List, the Clients List and the Prospects List. If I have a headache and I want to publish it, select it carefully and send it only to my relatives. If I want my clients and prospects to know about an aromatherapy tip that can be useful for them, I select only them. My status updates are written in English and in Spanish, but the English speaking friends don't need to scratch their heads wondering what did I write.

  • http://scrapsofmygeeklife.com scrappinmichele

    My family definitely runs on Facebook! My 14 year old just got onto Facebook and now he sends me messages like, “What's for dinner?” and “Here is my birthday list!”

    But for keeping up with all my relatives I love it. In our busy lives, I wouldn't sit down and write letters or call. Not because I don't want to, but because I just don't have the time for everything. Something has to give. But now I can keep up with my cousins, my sisters, my aunts and uncles in short little quips when I have time. Sometimes it's when I'm sitting in the waiting room at the doctor's office or waiting for a dance class to end. Not enough time to write a letter or call, but enough time to check the pulse of my family.

  • Tim Dahl

    Our second child was born 7 days ago. The first pic taken was w/ my iPhone, and immediately uploaded to FB for family & friends to see. Family definately runs on FB.

  • http://goodwolve.blogs.com/moxieworks Jacqueline

    I totally get that Facebook is for families and real friends – I have limited my use of it for business. That might hurt me, but I just feel better about it.

  • socialstacy

    It's so weird how we in a way, have to log onto Facebook everyday. I made the mistake of doing this at my family vacay in hawaii last year, this year we are going to Mexico – no international plan, I think my parents did it on purpose so I had no reason to use my phone ;)

  • http://chrisbrogan.com Chris Brogan

    Great that they “like” pages. I want to make sales. So, if Stride Rite is making more sales, then that's awesome. If moms are talking, that's swell. I want them buying and talking.

    Is that surprising?

  • http://jamespoling.com James

    Chris, here's my take on it, and the evolution of Facebook's accidental voyage to becoming the go to hub of family interactions.

    Facebook's Unplanned Family: http://tumblr.com/xnmectbon

  • http://twitter.com/DaveKerpen Dave Kerpen

    Not surprising at all. They are buying, and talking.

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  • Kristin Hovde

    When I first heard of Facebook, I was a sophomore in college and it just started taking off. I would have never thought it would become a way to successfully market your business. I have been using Facebook to market our business for about a year and it has helped tremendously by getting the name of our company out.

    As for the family aspect of FB, I have reconnected with relatives I haven't seen or talked to in years! I'm definitely a fan of this social network!

  • Psuita

    Hi Chris, So true. I lost my niece earlier this year and instead of phone chains, emails that were forwarded or God knows what else, family members communicated my sweet Leah's progress, decline, actions, visitors, thoughts, prayers etc. via this vital link. It kept Leah's family and friends across the country together and we shared (again together) in her loss. My sister-in-law created a FB site in her memory and we all continue to share stories and grieve together. I'm like you – I totally get FB for families too. A wonderful technology.

  • Serita

    I am not the best in the bunch for marketing myself, but I have to tell you that I felt the same way about facebook… until I got my favorite client ever from Facebook. He joined my page and watched what I did when I didn't even know he was watching. Not a comment or anything. Then out of the blue I got a comment on my site that he liked my message and business perspective. We talked and connected. So now, I'm sold on Facebook even if the people there aren't necessarily that into me. There's huge potential there.

  • http://www.kherize5.com Suzanne Vara

    I wish I could say that my family runs on FB but considering my mother, brother and 2 sisters are not users (thought my nieces are), for me it is an extended family of old elementary, HS and college friends as well as my mets and jets fans family. I also keep in touch with my gal pal from CA who is like a sister. My family is the call or text which adds to the loathing of the phone which I know you relate to. My mom does read HuffPo so she feels in the know.

    Facebook has opened doors for us to be able reconnect and stay in touch with people. For the casual personal user it is a place to talk about things that most do not care about, gush over our adorable children and reminisce about old times. We are able to connect with fans of sports teams and in some cases, players. It allows us to show a piece of who we are as so many never seem to hold back but also we are afforded different thoughts from what people post.

    While I am selective as no many do not want to hear about my son's Andrew-isms, sport team rants or raves we all have to admit (ok maybe a woman thing) that seeing how people look 20 yrs out of HS is definitely worth the connection … if even for a little bit.

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  • Andreea Townsend

    Perhaps targeting family related products like dog sitting, maid services, family restaurants, etc would work on facebook–fan pages with local info and promotions. I think that would work. Facebook is a different animal for marketing because it seems that most people simply advocate they like a brand, but that doesn't always lead to sales.

  • http://www.techipedia.com Tamar Weinberg

    Weinberg ;) And to make it easier – it's still on the front page :)

    http://www.techipedia.com/2010/facebook-friends

  • http://cloverdewcreative.wordpress.com cloverdew

    I recently completely left Facebook. I deleted my account a few months ago. For the most part, I don't miss it. It was a timesuck. I read too many updates of people I don't actually have relationships with. There was too much “noise”, as we say. I decided, the people I want to have relationships with and the people who want to have relationships with me will contact me via email, Twitter, or *gasp* a PHONE CALL if they want to get in touch with me. I was hoping that it would drive more people to call, but I'm not sure it's done that… but it has very quickly showed me who really cares and who was just racking up “friends” numbers. I'm not a numbers person; I'm a relationships person. Quality of relationships > quantity of relationships. Always.

  • http://www.tribebuilding.com Ed Welch

    Chris, think of fan pages as permission marketing – Seth Godin style. When an FB user “likes” a fan page – he/she is essentially giving the operator of that fan page permission to drop little bits of marketing (or whatever) into his/her path. The key is to build a quality fan page, then follow the basic rules of permission marketing as you operate that fan page.

  • http://membershipjedi.com MikeCassidy

    Being a Massachusetts refugee and my wife being from New York (yes are children have Red Sox/Yankee anxieties), other than a scattering of cousins we are alone west of the Mississippi. As we have chosen to hold grandchildren “hostage” in the desert, Facebook has been a true lifeline for grandparents, aunts, uncles, etc.

    A new phenomena has evolved when we do visit — we know what we have all been up to, and that presents a profound opportunity to truly enjoy and be in the moment. The lack of requisite “catch up” has dwindled to minutes not days.

    To create new relationships it is not really the vehicle, however in enhancing or maintaining existing relationships it is a great tool.

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    While I use Facebook for personal and business, to your point – when my daughter was in Spain last year, I was able to see her uploading photos, she “checked” in to post status updates and let us know she was ok and having a grand ol' time. When she returned home she asked if I missed her – I said “sort of” I got to “see” you almost everyday. For our family, Facebook made the world seem very tiny.

  • http://www.webhostinglogic.com Frank Adams

    I haven’t used Facebook yet for marketing but for personal purposes, it is the best one to connect with your family and friends. I just make sure my profile is not publicly shown as some cuprits out there may use it for their own interest.

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  • http://twitter.com/MichelleDe MichelleDeRepentigny

    My family runs on Facebook, but it is also becoming much more important in my business. As a real estate broker, my clients are becoming advocates and photo taking mad marketers for me! My favorite day last month – the day a new seller took a photo of the sign I planted in her front yard with her phone. She posted it to Facebook with a comment”Yippee my house is for sale” and tagged me -expanding my credibility & reach to her 300+- friends that I didn't know yet. Her friends have gotten to follow along & cheer on her excitement as we went under contract & move through the process. I simply cannot pay for that type of marketing reach.

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