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		<title>By: Media Bullseye</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisbrogan.com/implications-of-a-google-social-network/comment-page-1/#comment-95928</link>
		<dc:creator>Media Bullseye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Blogger Outreach, in Plain English (and Other PR Blog Jots)...&lt;/strong&gt;

Jeremiah Owyang offers some common sense advice to startups conducting their own blogger outreach; Geoff Livingston gives a good summary of a surprising new online privacy study, and Chris Brogan wonders about Google entering the social networking fray...</description>
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<p>Jeremiah Owyang offers some common sense advice to startups conducting their own blogger outreach; Geoff Livingston gives a good summary of a surprising new online privacy study, and Chris Brogan wonders about Google entering the social networking fray&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David Kowarsky</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisbrogan.com/implications-of-a-google-social-network/comment-page-1/#comment-95738</link>
		<dc:creator>David Kowarsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 07:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;your social network is your contact list. No invitations necessary...You&#039;re already bought in... &lt;/i&gt;

Don&#039;t we, uh, NOT like it when social networks automatically decide to include/exclude people who we happen to be in touch with but may not want to share everything with?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>your social network is your contact list. No invitations necessary&#8230;You&#8217;re already bought in&#8230; </i></p>
<p>Don&#8217;t we, uh, NOT like it when social networks automatically decide to include/exclude people who we happen to be in touch with but may not want to share everything with?</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas E. Welch</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisbrogan.com/implications-of-a-google-social-network/comment-page-1/#comment-95723</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas E. Welch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 05:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting idea, and most likely possible, but we  must all be careful to avoid trading one monopoly for another. More and more, I am leaning towards a decentralized connection of parts rather than a monolithic whole. Distributing the power allows for a larger selection of alternatives and avoids the &quot;winner take all&quot; model where users can only choose between&quot;A&quot; and &quot;A&quot;.

Douglas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting idea, and most likely possible, but we  must all be careful to avoid trading one monopoly for another. More and more, I am leaning towards a decentralized connection of parts rather than a monolithic whole. Distributing the power allows for a larger selection of alternatives and avoids the &#8220;winner take all&#8221; model where users can only choose between&#8221;A&#8221; and &#8220;A&#8221;.</p>
<p>Douglas</p>
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		<title>By: dalster44 &#187; Implications of a Google Social Network</title>
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		<dc:creator>dalster44 &#187; Implications of a Google Social Network</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 02:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Check it out! While looking through the blogosphere we stumbled on an interesting post today.Here&#8217;s a quick excerptImplications of a Google Social Network Filed Under Article &#124; 9 Comments Uploaded with Skitch! Google has something really clever here. Look over a few recent, subtle moves. Google adds AIM functionality into GTALK, so you can use either Google Talk or your AIM ID. Google adds Friends to Reader, meaning that anyone with a Google account can share information back and forth with Google Reader. Google slips profiles into the “Friends” action, but it’s clear that this will go cross-account. S [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Check it out! While looking through the blogosphere we stumbled on an interesting post today.Here&#8217;s a quick excerptImplications of a Google Social Network Filed Under Article | 9 Comments Uploaded with Skitch! Google has something really clever here. Look over a few recent, subtle moves. Google adds AIM functionality into GTALK, so you can use either Google Talk or your AIM ID. Google adds Friends to Reader, meaning that anyone with a Google account can share information back and forth with Google Reader. Google slips profiles into the “Friends” action, but it’s clear that this will go cross-account. S [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Seth Woodworth</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisbrogan.com/implications-of-a-google-social-network/comment-page-1/#comment-95690</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth Woodworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 01:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A social network provides services.  Myspace and Facebook keep your mindshare by locking you into their services.  Messaging is far less convenient than email or IM.  The feeds or media streams are far less convenient than RSS.

While google is connecting *useful* versions of all of these features.  They aren&#039;t locking you in to their versions however.  The only thing that would keep you from using something else is that google has the most features that work together.

How very open.  Google could beat everyone in the social networking world simply by being superior and open.  Incredible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A social network provides services.  Myspace and Facebook keep your mindshare by locking you into their services.  Messaging is far less convenient than email or IM.  The feeds or media streams are far less convenient than RSS.</p>
<p>While google is connecting *useful* versions of all of these features.  They aren&#8217;t locking you in to their versions however.  The only thing that would keep you from using something else is that google has the most features that work together.</p>
<p>How very open.  Google could beat everyone in the social networking world simply by being superior and open.  Incredible.</p>
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		<title>By: Hans de Kraker</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisbrogan.com/implications-of-a-google-social-network/comment-page-1/#comment-95689</link>
		<dc:creator>Hans de Kraker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 01:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Swiss Army knife works for some audiences. Not for all. 

One of the big challenges I saw from the outset for Facebook is that it is not essential for business. Google is. Today more and more companies are starting to block Facebook and whilst there is some noise about their moves being conservative - you cannot expect an organisation with 10000 staff to give its staff free access to Facebook. They would waste most of the time -as most do on Facebook. It is interesting to entertain a &#039;professionalised&#039; version as an Intranet (without all the Fun and Super-wall type time wasting applications), or leaving some of the business developers or strategists to spend time on Facebook - but other than that - you cannot afford it.

Google and Microsoft have the advangtage of having access to us every day of the week. We need Google for work - and hence Google - has a huge advantage over Facebook and others.

On top of that, Google is a user generated brand that has been around for 10 years and we tend to trust Google as that brand. Facebook has years of work ahead.

Facebook could possibly have paved the way for Google - or maybe Microsoft.

Google is already profitable - Facebook still aspires to become profitable. In their battle to do so they also need to continue to stay on the ball when it comes to Facebook. So much still needs to happen.

Google is slowly gaining ground on Microsoft and starting to eat into marketshare of other companies and industries as well, like telephone and energy. They can do this because of the strength of their brand.

I tend to agree with you Chris, there are many angles from which Google is interesting to users - and more essential ones then Facebook at this stage. Both Google and Microsoft cannot be beaten when it comes to essential functionality.

We can still do our work without Facebook or other Social Networks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Swiss Army knife works for some audiences. Not for all. </p>
<p>One of the big challenges I saw from the outset for Facebook is that it is not essential for business. Google is. Today more and more companies are starting to block Facebook and whilst there is some noise about their moves being conservative &#8211; you cannot expect an organisation with 10000 staff to give its staff free access to Facebook. They would waste most of the time -as most do on Facebook. It is interesting to entertain a &#8216;professionalised&#8217; version as an Intranet (without all the Fun and Super-wall type time wasting applications), or leaving some of the business developers or strategists to spend time on Facebook &#8211; but other than that &#8211; you cannot afford it.</p>
<p>Google and Microsoft have the advangtage of having access to us every day of the week. We need Google for work &#8211; and hence Google &#8211; has a huge advantage over Facebook and others.</p>
<p>On top of that, Google is a user generated brand that has been around for 10 years and we tend to trust Google as that brand. Facebook has years of work ahead.</p>
<p>Facebook could possibly have paved the way for Google &#8211; or maybe Microsoft.</p>
<p>Google is already profitable &#8211; Facebook still aspires to become profitable. In their battle to do so they also need to continue to stay on the ball when it comes to Facebook. So much still needs to happen.</p>
<p>Google is slowly gaining ground on Microsoft and starting to eat into marketshare of other companies and industries as well, like telephone and energy. They can do this because of the strength of their brand.</p>
<p>I tend to agree with you Chris, there are many angles from which Google is interesting to users &#8211; and more essential ones then Facebook at this stage. Both Google and Microsoft cannot be beaten when it comes to essential functionality.</p>
<p>We can still do our work without Facebook or other Social Networks.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Hodson</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisbrogan.com/implications-of-a-google-social-network/comment-page-1/#comment-95686</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Hodson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 00:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of folks got all in a lather when Google announced the Krol project saying it could well be a space changing move. Well as I pointed out the other day in a post (http://www.winextra.com/2007/12/14/the-real-google-space-changer/) on them adding Contacts/Friends to Google Reader I felt that that was more of a space changer than Knol. This addition of Profiles just continues the trend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of folks got all in a lather when Google announced the Krol project saying it could well be a space changing move. Well as I pointed out the other day in a post (<a href="http://www.winextra.com/2007/12/14/the-real-google-space-changer/" rel="nofollow">http://www.winextra.com/2007/12/14/the-real-google-space-changer/</a>) on them adding Contacts/Friends to Google Reader I felt that that was more of a space changer than Knol. This addition of Profiles just continues the trend.</p>
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		<title>By: John Johansen</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisbrogan.com/implications-of-a-google-social-network/comment-page-1/#comment-95681</link>
		<dc:creator>John Johansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 00:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I made a comment on your last post and I&#039;m going to carry it over here.

I do agree that Google has my loyalty.  When I want to do something new, I check to see if Google has a service for it first.

I&#039;ve got 2 Google Accounts, each has different Reader feeds I follow.  I use GDocs for most of my writing, including blog posts in progress.  I have 2 Blogger blogs -- I thought about starting my new one on a different service but Google was just familiar to me.  I&#039;ve even got Web history enabled.

But, those are all services I use for personal reasons.  

When I want to talk with people, I&#039;ve moved off email.  I use Facebook, blog comments, Twitter (as of today), and other ways to interact.

So, would I use a Google-styled social network?  Maybe.  But there would still be a hurdle, it wouldn&#039;t just be a natural step.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I made a comment on your last post and I&#8217;m going to carry it over here.</p>
<p>I do agree that Google has my loyalty.  When I want to do something new, I check to see if Google has a service for it first.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got 2 Google Accounts, each has different Reader feeds I follow.  I use GDocs for most of my writing, including blog posts in progress.  I have 2 Blogger blogs &#8212; I thought about starting my new one on a different service but Google was just familiar to me.  I&#8217;ve even got Web history enabled.</p>
<p>But, those are all services I use for personal reasons.  </p>
<p>When I want to talk with people, I&#8217;ve moved off email.  I use Facebook, blog comments, Twitter (as of today), and other ways to interact.</p>
<p>So, would I use a Google-styled social network?  Maybe.  But there would still be a hurdle, it wouldn&#8217;t just be a natural step.</p>
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		<title>By: suzymiller</title>
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		<dc:creator>suzymiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 23:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the ideas behind all this, but I am finding that in the UK your average business Joe is still cautious about using some websites (would rather phone or email) to source what they need,and social networking is still viewed as alien territory to many.  I think it is partly a fear of even more unsolicited mail and also a fear of the whole &#039;virtual&#039; world as if it has some kind of inhuman, unethical aspect to it.  Until these bridges are crossed, the real take up of the internet by people Google want to advertise to, will not truly explode.  I think that it will explode, but I would love to know the triggers. I think they may come from suprising sources, as these things often do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the ideas behind all this, but I am finding that in the UK your average business Joe is still cautious about using some websites (would rather phone or email) to source what they need,and social networking is still viewed as alien territory to many.  I think it is partly a fear of even more unsolicited mail and also a fear of the whole &#8216;virtual&#8217; world as if it has some kind of inhuman, unethical aspect to it.  Until these bridges are crossed, the real take up of the internet by people Google want to advertise to, will not truly explode.  I think that it will explode, but I would love to know the triggers. I think they may come from suprising sources, as these things often do.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Walton</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisbrogan.com/implications-of-a-google-social-network/comment-page-1/#comment-95676</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Walton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 23:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll be the first to admit that Google owns me.  Gmail, my domain email hosted by Google, docs, reader, news, Gtalk on and on and on.

I think this entire arena is still young and needs to mature but I think Google has a nice start.  Who knows how the landscape will look in a year or even 6 months, for me, I&#039;m choosing platforms that make sense to me and make my life easier.  It just so happens that Google generally wins.  

One Google product that I&#039;m not sold on is Picasa, it&#039;s got a nice interface but something about it doesn&#039;t sit right, Flickr is where I generally store my photos.  Although, I have just started playing with ZenFolio and it has potential.

So, I don&#039;t just jump into everything Google just because it&#039;s Google.  

Facebook, on the other hand, doesn&#039;t turn my crank so much.  I still go there when contacted by someone but I really don&#039;t see value there, for me.  It&#039;s more of a playground.  So, Chris, if it&#039;s true that Google is positioning itself as a social media contender, which is entirely possible, then they have a decent shot, especially with my interactions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll be the first to admit that Google owns me.  Gmail, my domain email hosted by Google, docs, reader, news, Gtalk on and on and on.</p>
<p>I think this entire arena is still young and needs to mature but I think Google has a nice start.  Who knows how the landscape will look in a year or even 6 months, for me, I&#8217;m choosing platforms that make sense to me and make my life easier.  It just so happens that Google generally wins.  </p>
<p>One Google product that I&#8217;m not sold on is Picasa, it&#8217;s got a nice interface but something about it doesn&#8217;t sit right, Flickr is where I generally store my photos.  Although, I have just started playing with ZenFolio and it has potential.</p>
<p>So, I don&#8217;t just jump into everything Google just because it&#8217;s Google.  </p>
<p>Facebook, on the other hand, doesn&#8217;t turn my crank so much.  I still go there when contacted by someone but I really don&#8217;t see value there, for me.  It&#8217;s more of a playground.  So, Chris, if it&#8217;s true that Google is positioning itself as a social media contender, which is entirely possible, then they have a decent shot, especially with my interactions.</p>
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