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		<title>By: Pass It On Media - PR Companies Missing A Trick</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 08:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it may be argued that social media fits within PR, I see it fitting in between PR and Marketing quite neatly:  the PR element is persuasive and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: BlogBacker &#187; Is Social Media More for PR than for Marketers by chrisbrogan</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlogBacker &#187; Is Social Media More for PR than for Marketers by chrisbrogan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] backed up on 02:12:2008Originally Published: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 11:52:29 +0000http://chrisbrogan.com/is-social-media-more-for-pr-than-fo&#8230; Consider this second in a series of posts where I don&#8217;t really know what I&#8217;m talking [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mike Volpe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Volpe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, nice work on the blog strategy of getting your readers to write your posts for you.  It clearly worked and I had never thoguht of doing that.  Genius!

I really think that PR and Marketing is becoming more intertwined these days.  More and more I think companies are using social media to connect with their audiences - which include customers, prospects and the media.  And more and more those audiences are blurring.  I know for us at HubSpot the process of PR and Marketing are very mixed - and this is because of the emergence of social media where you can reach media and customers at the same time in similar ways - and sometimes they are even the same people.

I do think that social media has a really important role to play in PR.  It is a great tool to more easily connect with a larger number of people.  I can already tell you that I am interacting in a more productive way with more influential people in our industry during my job at HubSpot than I have in previous jobs.  And HubSpot is only a small company without a long history.  Social media has made this possible.

I also think social media has a really important role to play in marketing. We use all forms of social media to market HubSpot (Facebook, Reddit, LinkedIn, Blogging, Digg, Delicious, etc.) and they have been very effective.

But, as I mentioned earlier, it is hard to separate them. The people I interact with are often both potential customer and media member.  After all, pretty much anyone with a blog or even a Facebook account is a member of the media today, since even with a tool like Facebook you are publishing content to your readers (friends).

Finally, I published an article yesterday about how to measure your marketing results in social media, perhaps some of the folks on this post will find it interesting:
http://blog.hubspot.com/blog/tabid/6307/bid/3561/Social-Media-How-to-Measure-Marketing-Effectiveness.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, nice work on the blog strategy of getting your readers to write your posts for you.  It clearly worked and I had never thoguht of doing that.  Genius!</p>
<p>I really think that PR and Marketing is becoming more intertwined these days.  More and more I think companies are using social media to connect with their audiences &#8211; which include customers, prospects and the media.  And more and more those audiences are blurring.  I know for us at HubSpot the process of PR and Marketing are very mixed &#8211; and this is because of the emergence of social media where you can reach media and customers at the same time in similar ways &#8211; and sometimes they are even the same people.</p>
<p>I do think that social media has a really important role to play in PR.  It is a great tool to more easily connect with a larger number of people.  I can already tell you that I am interacting in a more productive way with more influential people in our industry during my job at HubSpot than I have in previous jobs.  And HubSpot is only a small company without a long history.  Social media has made this possible.</p>
<p>I also think social media has a really important role to play in marketing. We use all forms of social media to market HubSpot (Facebook, Reddit, LinkedIn, Blogging, Digg, Delicious, etc.) and they have been very effective.</p>
<p>But, as I mentioned earlier, it is hard to separate them. The people I interact with are often both potential customer and media member.  After all, pretty much anyone with a blog or even a Facebook account is a member of the media today, since even with a tool like Facebook you are publishing content to your readers (friends).</p>
<p>Finally, I published an article yesterday about how to measure your marketing results in social media, perhaps some of the folks on this post will find it interesting:<br />
<a href="http://blog.hubspot.com/blog/tabid/6307/bid/3561/Social-Media-How-to-Measure-Marketing-Effectiveness.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://blog.hubspot.com/blog/tabid/6307/bid/3561/Social-Media-How-to-Measure-Marketing-Effectiveness.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: Social Networks, Marketing and PR &#171; Parent&#8217;s Eye View</title>
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		<dc:creator>Social Networks, Marketing and PR &#171; Parent&#8217;s Eye View</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 12:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Networks, Marketing and&#160;PR  Jump to Comments Chris Brogan asked a question on his blog -Is social media built more for PR types? Is the value there much [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Doug Haslam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Haslam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 05:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hard to call it for any one function-- developers blog, executives blog, but essential, social media is a communicators&#039; tool. 

If a &quot;marketing&quot; person declares they are a communicator, then great. If they are more interested in generating leads and doing all the other boring stuff that directly makes money, then-- well, someone has to do it, and social media may be a great tool for part of that function.

I&#039;m a PR guy, and I am completely comfortable thinking of social media communications as a communications function, completely integrated with all the &quot;old&quot; communications functions. After all, they&#039;re just tools. They&#039;re newer, they&#039;re cooler, but they&#039;re tools.

I just know that it&#039;s not just us PR people out here. 

That&#039;s pretty cool too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hard to call it for any one function&#8211; developers blog, executives blog, but essential, social media is a communicators&#8217; tool. </p>
<p>If a &#8220;marketing&#8221; person declares they are a communicator, then great. If they are more interested in generating leads and doing all the other boring stuff that directly makes money, then&#8211; well, someone has to do it, and social media may be a great tool for part of that function.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a PR guy, and I am completely comfortable thinking of social media communications as a communications function, completely integrated with all the &#8220;old&#8221; communications functions. After all, they&#8217;re just tools. They&#8217;re newer, they&#8217;re cooler, but they&#8217;re tools.</p>
<p>I just know that it&#8217;s not just us PR people out here. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s pretty cool too.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Thilk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Thilk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think social media tools - not the content that&#039;s produced but the tools to produce it - actually do more to break down these silos than anything else. There are too many instances of good ideas being thrown out because people think &quot;those are more marketing.&quot; 

Social media is about finding the right tools to become a natural part of the conversation and not just shouting ad messages at people. The disintegrating lines between practice areas is why you see so many social media specialists who are just looking for a good way to talk to people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think social media tools &#8211; not the content that&#8217;s produced but the tools to produce it &#8211; actually do more to break down these silos than anything else. There are too many instances of good ideas being thrown out because people think &#8220;those are more marketing.&#8221; </p>
<p>Social media is about finding the right tools to become a natural part of the conversation and not just shouting ad messages at people. The disintegrating lines between practice areas is why you see so many social media specialists who are just looking for a good way to talk to people.</p>
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		<title>By: Aline Zimmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aline Zimmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one great question.  I&#039;m a traditional marketer who has been following the social media scene with great interest.  I love the idea of a conversation with customers, but I don&#039;t want to intrude on a social site with a marketing message either.

So, at first glance, it&#039;s easier to see the PR play which is generally more about branding or sharing information than about an offer with a call to action.  But, as a customer myself, I think that a compelling marketing message would be welcome if it is right on the mark, meaning I and my friends will benefit from participating.  The challenge is to come up with that compelling message or offer in a way that is entertaining, provokes conversation, and is not perceived as invasive or controversial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one great question.  I&#8217;m a traditional marketer who has been following the social media scene with great interest.  I love the idea of a conversation with customers, but I don&#8217;t want to intrude on a social site with a marketing message either.</p>
<p>So, at first glance, it&#8217;s easier to see the PR play which is generally more about branding or sharing information than about an offer with a call to action.  But, as a customer myself, I think that a compelling marketing message would be welcome if it is right on the mark, meaning I and my friends will benefit from participating.  The challenge is to come up with that compelling message or offer in a way that is entertaining, provokes conversation, and is not perceived as invasive or controversial.</p>
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