Pirate Moves- Promoting Without Being That Guy

bullhorn guyPart of what makes social media great is the ability to reach out and connect with people simply. Tools like blogs, Facebook, Twitter, and the rest are free or cheap, can reach lots of people, and promote two way conversations. You might be interested in using social software to promote your products or service or company, and that’s great.

The thing is, this isn’t baseline advertising and marketing. You’re talking into a channel where people have gathered for different purposes. Some will be interested in your promotions. Others will reject them. Still others will rail against you for acting commercially in what they consider a sacred space.

There are ways to get your ideas across such that it’s palatable to your audience and/or to a community. Some of them work well for everyone. Others require a higher degree of trust first. Here’s some of what’s usually missing when people explain to you that social media is this great place for marketing and business communications. They forget to tell you that there’s work involved in establishing trust, but we can get there.

The trick is being able to promote without being “that guy” (and yes, that includes women).

Let’s Use the Picnic Analogy

Conn Fishburn from Yahoo gave me a great analogy for thinking about social media marketing when we spoke at IBM’s Research Headquarters in New York last year. He said, “Bring wine to the picnic.” In this case, Conn was talking about the idea that if you show up and try to market, people will be frustrated and will shut you out. Instead, if you bring something of value to people, they’ll be more likely to accept you.

The picnic is a decent way to think about social media environments, especially if you think of it as a pot-luck picnic in a large public park. Let’s envision it: a sunny day, with a warm breeze, and there are people gathering for different reasons. Some are there to just take in the rays. Others are there to practice for a sporting event. Others have come to find romance. Others are organizing a protest. There are even a few people of questionable character looking to cause trouble and improve their standings in life.

Things To Remember About Being That Guy

“That guy” tends to blurt a lot. They talk all about their thing. They re-talk about it all over Twitter, Facebook, and everywhere they can find. They make every second or third blog post a pointer to that thing. They try to find clever ways to weave their thing into your thing.

The problem is, we know. We see it. We know what you’re doing. It’s not clever. It’s not subtle. It’s not very picnic-like behavior.

How “That Guy” Arrives at the Picnic

Imagine there are a bunch of people standing over by the picnic tables. They’ve brought a dish to share. They are looking forward to enjoying a diverse lunch with loosely joined friends (people they might not know well, but that they know in a social setting). They’re smiling, enjoying small talk, and engaged in several small conversations of varying degrees of substance.

I could just use one word: blurt.

“That guy” shows up and starts bullhorning her message into the crowd. “Hi! I can show you thirty ways to make money while you sleep!”

(That guy uses lots of exclamation points.)

You know that guy. You might have even been that guy. Sometimes, I skirt perilously close to being that guy. Again, what separates you from being that guy is often just a level of trust, or, as Conn Fishburn called it, the notion to bring wine to the picnic.

Bring Wine to the Picnic

At this picnic called social media, what people seem to want the most is information they can use. The information might be entertaining, might help them with their job, might do something to give them a sense of value. Whatever the case, in the social space, people consider the sharing of information to be one form of ready relationship currency. Let’s talk about others.

10 Ways to Build Relationships Before You Ask for Anything

  1. Comment on and reply to other people’s observations, posts, and ideas. (Sometimes, just retweeting someone’s status message in Twitter is a gesture that matters to people.)
  2. Share good information freely, such as pointing to great blog posts or articles.
  3. Make virtual introductions when you see obvious like-minded people who could do to know each other.
  4. Create useful media like blog posts or ebooks or videos that help people.
  5. Find mutual interest points and talk about them. (Bonus points to you if they’re off-topic from your business needs, like talking about the Red Sox or Barbecue.)
  6. Remember things about the other person, such as whether they have a big meeting on Thursday, and ask them about it on Friday.
  7. Help when someone is promoting their thing. Spread information for other people liberally.
  8. Find causes and nonprofit experiences to help out. Showing that you’re not just a capitalist pig goes a long way.
  9. Reply to people and build conversations.
  10. Thank people when they’re helpful.

Launching Your Promotion

After accomplishing the above – and it’s a process, so don’t pat yourself on the back after being at this for a few days. You’ve really got to earn your place at the picnic. After accomplishing the above, it’s likely that you can promote things. I find that the magic of doing so is still in alignment with picnic-friendly behavior.

  • Make your promotion useful to others. “I’m giving away a free pass to my conference for the first five people representing a major brand. DM me to see if you qualify.” (That might work. What do you think? Still too scammy?)
  • Make your promotion informational. “How do you go about promoting using social media? Here are my ideas…” (which is how I’ll show Twitter this post.)
  • Ask politely for folks to share the more important promotions. I rarely request retweets of work on Twitter, unless it’s for a charity. If it’s for charity, I can really ring the bell.
  • Try your hardest to make it about them. You’re talking about your thing, but if you make it about them, they share. (Them is not the giant ants, but instead, people in your picnic community.)
  • Use a variant of this mix in promoting. Try to promote something like 15:1 their stuff to your stuff, or at least make about 15 of your tweets or social media messages or blog posts about something that’s NOT about your stuff to every one that is yours.

What Else?

I’ve probably missed a few gems. As you’re all social media superheroes too, why not give me some help? What do you think are some of the ways that have worked for you? Want to share some of your better promotions?

It’s okay, I’m asking. : )
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  • http://www.catelas.com Rob

    Chris,
    If I can only read one blog a day going forward, it has to be yours. As a sales guy one needs to be a bit pushy, but there is a huge difference between being ‘that guy’ and closing. Closing only happens after you have shared the wine. Thanks for the insight and wisdom.

  • http://www.catelas.com Rob

    Chris,
    If I can only read one blog a day going forward, it has to be yours. As a sales guy one needs to be a bit pushy, but there is a huge difference between being ‘that guy’ and closing. Closing only happens after you have shared the wine. Thanks for the insight and wisdom.

  • http://philipvanp.wordpress.com/ Philip Van Peborgh

    Thanks Chris, great post. I’ve paid the rent for nearly 20 years by persuading people to hire me as a freelancer or buy from me as a sales guy.

    After being subjected to all types of advice on how to sell I’ve boiled it down to this rule. Having been professionally with social media over the past few months I think it applies equally as well.

    Solve the customers issue (even if you don’t gain from it).

  • http://philipvanp.wordpress.com/ Philip Van Peborgh

    Thanks Chris, great post. I’ve paid the rent for nearly 20 years by persuading people to hire me as a freelancer or buy from me as a sales guy.

    After being subjected to all types of advice on how to sell I’ve boiled it down to this rule. Having been professionally with social media over the past few months I think it applies equally as well.

    Solve the customers issue (even if you don’t gain from it).

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  • http://tv.factor77.com Jared O’Toole

    I’ve found it hard to figure out just how much to promote my stuff on twitter. I’ve started to realize that the system moves so fast %95 of the people following me won’t see a particular tweet, especially if I am sending a lot of tweets. So I’ve started to think that mentioning my stuff more often isn’t a bad thing because most people don’t see when I mention it before. Just to be clear I’m not trying to spam. But my followers will actually tell me they wish they knew about our new contest and I should have said something. Well I did send out 5 tweets about it but they all got lost in the noise.

  • http://tv.factor77.com Jared O’Toole

    I’ve found it hard to figure out just how much to promote my stuff on twitter. I’ve started to realize that the system moves so fast %95 of the people following me won’t see a particular tweet, especially if I am sending a lot of tweets. So I’ve started to think that mentioning my stuff more often isn’t a bad thing because most people don’t see when I mention it before. Just to be clear I’m not trying to spam. But my followers will actually tell me they wish they knew about our new contest and I should have said something. Well I did send out 5 tweets about it but they all got lost in the noise.

  • http://venmarkmedia.com claudio alegre

    I rarely comment on a post more than once unless a conversation is sparked, but I gotta say that Chris might have just laid out a basic foundation for the proper approach to SM if its to be done the right way.

    I for one plan to link back to this post from my blog as a must read piece and a vital reference for anyone interested in understanding the correct behavioral model that should be associated with the most effective way to approach Social Media.

    thx again Chris

  • http://venmarkmedia.com claudio alegre

    I rarely comment on a post more than once unless a conversation is sparked, but I gotta say that Chris might have just laid out a basic foundation for the proper approach to SM if its to be done the right way.

    I for one plan to link back to this post from my blog as a must read piece and a vital reference for anyone interested in understanding the correct behavioral model that should be associated with the most effective way to approach Social Media.

    thx again Chris

  • http://www.redlettercounsel.com Carolyn Marshall

    Point # 1: Excellent post, Chris. And to your point # 2, I happened across your post on Katya’s Non-Profit Marketing Blog.

    Very good advice which I will, in turn, pass along to others (points # 2 & 7).

    Thanks!

  • http://www.redlettercounsel.com Carolyn Marshall

    Point # 1: Excellent post, Chris. And to your point # 2, I happened across your post on Katya’s Non-Profit Marketing Blog.

    Very good advice which I will, in turn, pass along to others (points # 2 & 7).

    Thanks!

  • http://makingitsocial.com Nathan Hangen

    Brilliant and well-timed post Chris. I still struggle with this from time to time, but I think there is learning curve involved. This is new ground for all of us, and it can be difficult finding your voice. It is even more difficult to keep your voice from getting lost among the noise.

    The thing about social media, is there are a lot of cliques and groupies and it is tough to join the picnic. I’m tired of hearing about people I should follow or that are so “brilliant,” yet they are nothing more than self-promoters that are allowed to get away with it. I’d almost be willing to bet that there is a double standard when it comes to marketing on these mediums. If you aren’t one of the “cool guys,” then you don’t get to play.

  • http://makingitsocial.com Nathan Hangen

    Brilliant and well-timed post Chris. I still struggle with this from time to time, but I think there is learning curve involved. This is new ground for all of us, and it can be difficult finding your voice. It is even more difficult to keep your voice from getting lost among the noise.

    The thing about social media, is there are a lot of cliques and groupies and it is tough to join the picnic. I’m tired of hearing about people I should follow or that are so “brilliant,” yet they are nothing more than self-promoters that are allowed to get away with it. I’d almost be willing to bet that there is a double standard when it comes to marketing on these mediums. If you aren’t one of the “cool guys,” then you don’t get to play.

  • Eva

    thank you ~ of all the people I have followed since joining twitter I have learned the most from you…and continue to do so. Thankfully I dont need to be “that guy” as I am not selling a product ~ but I have learned so much about online relationships that can be quite complex in this “global village” . Still have a long way to go.

    Your birthday party was a laugh…

  • Eva

    thank you ~ of all the people I have followed since joining twitter I have learned the most from you…and continue to do so. Thankfully I dont need to be “that guy” as I am not selling a product ~ but I have learned so much about online relationships that can be quite complex in this “global village” . Still have a long way to go.

    Your birthday party was a laugh…

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  • http://mcollier.blogspot.com Marsha Collier

    Chris, Thank you for this post, the community needed to hear this. “That Guy” syndrome pervades the web and Twitter posts like this are unprofessional..

  • http://mcollier.blogspot.com Marsha Collier

    Chris, Thank you for this post, the community needed to hear this. “That Guy” syndrome pervades the web and Twitter posts like this are unprofessional..

  • http://technologyheaven.com Conrad Theart

    Awesome stuff! Great to be learning from a leader like you.

  • http://technologyheaven.com Conrad Theart

    Awesome stuff! Great to be learning from a leader like you.

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  • http://imjustagoyle.com imjustagoyle

    I love this post, Chris. There is a person I’m connected to on LinkedIn who’s “that guy” and he drives me NUTS. Every email from him (which I receive usually no less than 4 times a week) is about HIS thing, every post in multiple groups is exactly the same and it’s all cloaked under an emotion evoking subject line or premise. I see right through it and it irks me. Your post is dead on and he could learn a few lessons from it. It’s a shame he’s too busy “promoting” to be reading.

  • http://imjustagoyle.com imjustagoyle

    I love this post, Chris. There is a person I’m connected to on LinkedIn who’s “that guy” and he drives me NUTS. Every email from him (which I receive usually no less than 4 times a week) is about HIS thing, every post in multiple groups is exactly the same and it’s all cloaked under an emotion evoking subject line or premise. I see right through it and it irks me. Your post is dead on and he could learn a few lessons from it. It’s a shame he’s too busy “promoting” to be reading.

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  • http://www.superblyhuman.com Hannes

    Hi Chris, man what a must-read. It’s so tempting to just ‘start talking’ as it seems like this is what everyone does with social media. It’s easy to forget that your talk is only worth as much as the listening it gets.

    I’ve recently started writing about the power of Listening and how it can be your most powerful tool when writing stories, when marketing your product or when using social media.

    I was going to write that you could add Listening to your list, but then again a great listener understands that listening is what you talk about without even mentioning it literally.

    So, no, nothing to add but praise. It’s great to be around here.

    Hannes

  • http://www.superblyhuman.com Hannes

    Hi Chris, man what a must-read. It’s so tempting to just ‘start talking’ as it seems like this is what everyone does with social media. It’s easy to forget that your talk is only worth as much as the listening it gets.

    I’ve recently started writing about the power of Listening and how it can be your most powerful tool when writing stories, when marketing your product or when using social media.

    I was going to write that you could add Listening to your list, but then again a great listener understands that listening is what you talk about without even mentioning it literally.

    So, no, nothing to add but praise. It’s great to be around here.

    Hannes

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  • Carlo

    Hi Chris. This is a great post in trying to understand how some of the dynamics within social media works. It’s also a great thing to see how there seems to be an attitude that returns to village mentality, where a person has to contribute to be part of a community (and a genuine contribution, at least). But there will always be people who abuse the new reach social media has given them (like in many other circumstances). I don’t think this will give a “playbook” that they can use either.

    I am just stepping into the high-paced world of social media and I’m glad to find someone who can break it down to easy to understand bits. It shows that you really know your stuff.

    Thanks.

  • Carlo

    Hi Chris. This is a great post in trying to understand how some of the dynamics within social media works. It’s also a great thing to see how there seems to be an attitude that returns to village mentality, where a person has to contribute to be part of a community (and a genuine contribution, at least). But there will always be people who abuse the new reach social media has given them (like in many other circumstances). I don’t think this will give a “playbook” that they can use either.

    I am just stepping into the high-paced world of social media and I’m glad to find someone who can break it down to easy to understand bits. It shows that you really know your stuff.

    Thanks.

  • http://www.ryancmiller.com ryancmiller

    Chris,

    What you just wrote is like a social media etiquette manifesto. I’m totally not surprised by the 100 comments. We all know ‘that guy’ and most of us at one point or another have been ‘that guy’. Hope this Picnic Mentality gets passed around and far and wide. Thanks again for another insightful post.

    Question for the group though. Is there the best way to react to ‘that guy’? Do we just send him to Chris’ post, call them out, or do our best to ignore them? I’d be curious as to what you all do when you encounter this kind of person at Your Picnic.

    @ryancmiller

  • http://www.ryancmiller.com Ryan Miller

    Chris,

    What you just wrote is like a social media etiquette manifesto. I’m totally not surprised by the 100 comments. We all know ‘that guy’ and most of us at one point or another have been ‘that guy’. Hope this Picnic Mentality gets passed around and far and wide. Thanks again for another insightful post.

    Question for the group though. Is there the best way to react to ‘that guy’? Do we just send him to Chris’ post, call them out, or do our best to ignore them? I’d be curious as to what you all do when you encounter this kind of person at Your Picnic.

    @ryancmiller

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  • http://www.superblyhuman.com Hannes

    @ryancmiller,

    Hi Ryan, you could do what ‘that Guy’ doesn’t do:
    - listen
    - help him figure out what he really needs (attention) and why he needs it
    - honestly say how you feel, what your needs are and tell what you like about a real conversation

    When I’m ‘that Guy’ (yes I admit) I’m always glad when someone shows me how it can be done in a different, non-that-guy-way, when someone holds up a mirror, not to mock me, but to help me find out what I’m doing and how I can change this. You see, when I’m ‘that Guy’ing it’s usually because I’m feeling insecure. Seeing someone who recognizes that and respects that helps a lot.

    Have a great day,

    Hannes

  • http://www.superblyhuman.com Hannes

    @ryancmiller,

    Hi Ryan, you could do what ‘that Guy’ doesn’t do:
    - listen
    - help him figure out what he really needs (attention) and why he needs it
    - honestly say how you feel, what your needs are and tell what you like about a real conversation

    When I’m ‘that Guy’ (yes I admit) I’m always glad when someone shows me how it can be done in a different, non-that-guy-way, when someone holds up a mirror, not to mock me, but to help me find out what I’m doing and how I can change this. You see, when I’m ‘that Guy’ing it’s usually because I’m feeling insecure. Seeing someone who recognizes that and respects that helps a lot.

    Have a great day,

    Hannes

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  • http://hoodrichtees.com Skreubatron

    Great article! First time I’ve saw your blog (found a link at the t-shirt forums) and I am impressed!
    Really wish more people would reach out and lend a hand, instead of being “that guy” all the time. Sure, I ask for stuff sometimes, mostly just to promote when I’m in a contest or when I’m throwing a contest. I mean when using social media, most of the time the business name is in the social media name – myspace(.)com/xyz or whatever. No reason to spam the life out of people! Just talk and listen.

  • http://hoodrichtees.com Skreubatron

    Great article! First time I’ve saw your blog (found a link at the t-shirt forums) and I am impressed!
    Really wish more people would reach out and lend a hand, instead of being “that guy” all the time. Sure, I ask for stuff sometimes, mostly just to promote when I’m in a contest or when I’m throwing a contest. I mean when using social media, most of the time the business name is in the social media name – myspace(.)com/xyz or whatever. No reason to spam the life out of people! Just talk and listen.

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  • http://bloggingnotes.com Rehuel

    This is the reason why I don’t auto follow new followers on Twitter. I check their profile first to see if they’re that guy. I kinda avoid people who only tweet links to articles and sites etc, and have little or no meaningful conversation.

  • http://bloggingnotes.com Rehuel

    This is the reason why I don’t auto follow new followers on Twitter. I check their profile first to see if they’re that guy. I kinda avoid people who only tweet links to articles and sites etc, and have little or no meaningful conversation.

  • http://socialmediaguy.com Yianni Garcia

    I think I might be THAT guy. Am I? Chris, you’ve got me thinking.

    Am I the social media guy or am I THAT social media guy? Adding value to the people I engage with, whether to raise awareness of my start-up or simply share news about things we’re both interested in, has always been my goal when doing outreach. However, I worked in agencies for years, often times on accounts I wasn’t passionate about. Passion for my craft drives my motivation and when I’m forced to use my craft (social media) to raise awareness about things I don’t truly cares about… Well that’s when I become THAT guy.

    Get me talking about start-ups, education technology, green technology, web 2.0, cars, NYC, and fashion and you’re in for a engaging dialogue. You’ll be talking to THE social media guy.

    And if you’re wondering about my start-up check out gradegurublog.com

  • http://socialmediaguy.com Yianni Garcia

    I think I might be THAT guy. Am I? Chris, you’ve got me thinking.

    Am I the social media guy or am I THAT social media guy? Adding value to the people I engage with, whether to raise awareness of my start-up or simply share news about things we’re both interested in, has always been my goal when doing outreach. However, I worked in agencies for years, often times on accounts I wasn’t passionate about. Passion for my craft drives my motivation and when I’m forced to use my craft (social media) to raise awareness about things I don’t truly cares about… Well that’s when I become THAT guy.

    Get me talking about start-ups, education technology, green technology, web 2.0, cars, NYC, and fashion and you’re in for a engaging dialogue. You’ll be talking to THE social media guy.

    And if you’re wondering about my start-up check out gradegurublog.com

  • Roberto

    Great post!!!

  • Roberto

    Great post!!!

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