February 6, 2008 79 Comments

Question about OpenID

Falling into the category of “you’re smarter than me,” I have a question for those of you who know anything/much/lots about OpenID. As you can see in the illustration, I’ve chosen to use the WordPress.com installation of OpenID. I tied it to my WordPress.com account and have so far used it in only two places. I’m thinking that every time I offer up an OpenID, I’ll point to that one. So far so good, right? ( To get up to speed on OpenID, go here).

What happens if WordPress.com folds? What happens if they change their mind and start charging me, or I leave them for someone else, or whatever? By choosing WordPress.com (or Yahoo.com, or anyone.com) as my OpenID host/provider/whatever you call it, what happens to my ID should I choose to move it?

What do you know/think?

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http://kylecooper.net kylecooper

If you want to use multiple OpenID providers, set up your Blog as your URI using YADIS to designate priorities to your different providers: http://www.intertwingly.net/blog/2007/01/03/OpenID-for-non-SuperUsers

Of course, if you are afraid of leaving your OpenID in the hands of a provider who could disappear at any moment, you can host your own identity server: http://wiki.openid.net/Run_your_own_identity_server

Hope these help!
http://kylecooper.net kylecooper

If you want to use multiple OpenID providers, set up your Blog as your URI using YADIS to designate priorities to your different providers: http://www.intertwingly.net/blog/2007/01/03/OpenID-for-non-SuperUsers

Of course, if you are afraid of leaving your OpenID in the hands of a provider who could disappear at any moment, you can host your own identity server: http://wiki.openid.net/Run_your_own_identity_server

Hope these help!
http://claimid.com/kylecooper Coop

If you want to use multiple OpenID providers, set up your Blog as your URI using YADIS to designate priorities to your different providers: http://www.intertwingly.net/blog/2007/01/03/OpenID-for-non-SuperUsers

Of course, if you are afraid of leaving your OpenID in the hands of a provider who could disappear at any moment, you can host your own identity server: http://wiki.openid.net/Run_your_own_identity_server

Hope these help!
http://alternageek.com Christa

Unfortunately, if WordPress.com as a domain folded or if they started charging and you didn’t want to pay, you would lose your OpenID. Even if that didn’t happen and you moved your domain over to WordPress.com your old ID of username.wordpress.com would cease to exist and your username.wordpress.com OpenID would disappear right along side of it.

Fortunately, there are things you can do to help ensure longevity of your OpenID. The whole purpose to OpenID is to provide a decentralized system and ensure data portability. You can install a bit of code into your own homepage that points at your OpenID provider of choice thereby allowing you to use your own domain name/blog name as your OpenID account and should your provider cease to exist, you domain name won’t necessarily (or at least you have control over that) and can just change the code at will to a new provider.

Simon Willson wrote a great howto so rather than repeat it or reinvent the wheel, here’s the link to it: http://simonwillison.net/2006/Dec/19/openid/

Good luck and welcome to OpenID! :)
http://alternageek.com Christa

Unfortunately, if WordPress.com as a domain folded or if they started charging and you didn’t want to pay, you would lose your OpenID. Even if that didn’t happen and you moved your domain over to WordPress.com your old ID of username.wordpress.com would cease to exist and your username.wordpress.com OpenID would disappear right along side of it.

Fortunately, there are things you can do to help ensure longevity of your OpenID. The whole purpose to OpenID is to provide a decentralized system and ensure data portability. You can install a bit of code into your own homepage that points at your OpenID provider of choice thereby allowing you to use your own domain name/blog name as your OpenID account and should your provider cease to exist, you domain name won’t necessarily (or at least you have control over that) and can just change the code at will to a new provider.

Simon Willson wrote a great howto so rather than repeat it or reinvent the wheel, here’s the link to it: http://simonwillison.net/2006/Dec/19/openid/

Good luck and welcome to OpenID! :)
http://alternageek.com Christa

Unfortunately, if WordPress.com as a domain folded or if they started charging and you didn’t want to pay, you would lose your OpenID. Even if that didn’t happen and you moved your domain over to WordPress.com your old ID of username.wordpress.com would cease to exist and your username.wordpress.com OpenID would disappear right along side of it.

Fortunately, there are things you can do to help ensure longevity of your OpenID. The whole purpose to OpenID is to provide a decentralized system and ensure data portability. You can install a bit of code into your own homepage that points at your OpenID provider of choice thereby allowing you to use your own domain name/blog name as your OpenID account and should your provider cease to exist, you domain name won’t necessarily (or at least you have control over that) and can just change the code at will to a new provider.

Simon Willson wrote a great howto so rather than repeat it or reinvent the wheel, here’s the link to it: http://simonwillison.net/2006/Dec/19/openid/

Good luck and welcome to OpenID! :)
http://www.chrisbrogan.com chrisbrogan

Thanks, Coop! I appreciate this stuff. I’m reading through it now.
http://www.chrisbrogan.com chrisbrogan

Thanks, Coop! I appreciate this stuff. I’m reading through it now.
http://www.chrisbrogan.com chrisbrogan

Thanks, Coop! I appreciate this stuff. I’m reading through it now.
http://spaetzel.com William Spaetzel

Just like Coop suggested, I have set up my domain to redirect to MyOpenId as my OpenID provider.

If MyOpenID folds, I just have to change the tags in my blog’s header and redirect to another Open ID provider.

So as long as I keep paying for my domain, I’ll never have to worry about losing my OpenId identity.
http://spaetzel.com William Spaetzel

Just like Coop suggested, I have set up my domain to redirect to MyOpenId as my OpenID provider.

If MyOpenID folds, I just have to change the tags in my blog’s header and redirect to another Open ID provider.

So as long as I keep paying for my domain, I’ll never have to worry about losing my OpenId identity.
http://spaetzel.com William Spaetzel

Just like Coop suggested, I have set up my domain to redirect to MyOpenId as my OpenID provider.

If MyOpenID folds, I just have to change the tags in my blog’s header and redirect to another Open ID provider.

So as long as I keep paying for my domain, I’ll never have to worry about losing my OpenId identity.
http://askbusinesscoach.wordpress.com courtney benson

Thanks for asking that question Chris, I’ve been concerned about it as well and thanks coop for the input.

I was just looking at a new company that has a interesting twist on OPEN ID. Have you heard about Vidoop? They have a “software-only, multi-factor user login technology based on categorized images. When a user enrolls, he chooses image categories from a bank of possible image content (such as airplanes, cars, or keys). This constitutes the shared secret. Then, upon proof of receipt of an access code transmitted out-of-band by e-mail or phone, the user’s computer is activated with a software token”. You might want to check it out.
http://askbusinesscoach.wordpress.com courtney benson

Thanks for asking that question Chris, I’ve been concerned about it as well and thanks coop for the input.

I was just looking at a new company that has a interesting twist on OPEN ID. Have you heard about Vidoop? They have a “software-only, multi-factor user login technology based on categorized images. When a user enrolls, he chooses image categories from a bank of possible image content (such as airplanes, cars, or keys). This constitutes the shared secret. Then, upon proof of receipt of an access code transmitted out-of-band by e-mail or phone, the user’s computer is activated with a software token”. You might want to check it out.
http://askbusinesscoach.wordpress.com courtney benson

Thanks for asking that question Chris, I’ve been concerned about it as well and thanks coop for the input.

I was just looking at a new company that has a interesting twist on OPEN ID. Have you heard about Vidoop? They have a “software-only, multi-factor user login technology based on categorized images. When a user enrolls, he chooses image categories from a bank of possible image content (such as airplanes, cars, or keys). This constitutes the shared secret. Then, upon proof of receipt of an access code transmitted out-of-band by e-mail or phone, the user’s computer is activated with a software token”. You might want to check it out.
http://www.geoffmanning.com Geoff Manning

Chris, I was going to post a comment regarding hosting your own OpenID but seems like I’m late to the party! Take Care!
http://www.geoffmanning.com Geoff Manning

Chris, I was going to post a comment regarding hosting your own OpenID but seems like I’m late to the party! Take Care!
http://www.geoffmanning.com Geoff Manning

Chris, I was going to post a comment regarding hosting your own OpenID but seems like I’m late to the party! Take Care!
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http://www.jonathanmulholland.com Jonathan Mulholland

Also, I believe you can consolidate OpenID’s, at least this option is offered by my OpenID provider – ClaimID.

If at some future point you no longer wanted to use your WordPress based OpenID you could merge in under a new/different one using this approach.

See http://claimid.com/openid
http://www.jonathanmulholland.com Jonathan Mulholland

Also, I believe you can consolidate OpenID’s, at least this option is offered by my OpenID provider – ClaimID.

If at some future point you no longer wanted to use your WordPress based OpenID you could merge in under a new/different one using this approach.

See http://claimid.com/openid
http://www.jonathanmulholland.com Jonathan Mulholland

Also, I believe you can consolidate OpenID’s, at least this option is offered by my OpenID provider – ClaimID.

If at some future point you no longer wanted to use your WordPress based OpenID you could merge in under a new/different one using this approach.

See http://claimid.com/openid
http://www.riazkanani.com Riaz Kanani

As others of said, you can add your provider inside the tag of your blog and then use your blog URL as your openid URL. That way if the provider disappears its no problem to change provider.

This site shows how to do this well:

http://simonwillison.net/2006/Dec/19/openid/
http://www.riazkanani.com Riaz Kanani

As others of said, you can add your provider inside the tag of your blog and then use your blog URL as your openid URL. That way if the provider disappears its no problem to change provider.

This site shows how to do this well:

http://simonwillison.net/2006/Dec/19/openid/
http://www.razorshine.com Riaz

As others of said, you can add your provider inside the tag of your blog and then use your blog URL as your openid URL. That way if the provider disappears its no problem to change provider.

This site shows how to do this well:

http://simonwillison.net/2006/Dec/19/openid/
http://lainaukset.wordpress.com/ Daniel Schildt

Thanks much for information given in comments. I have been thinking of the same question before and now I know more of what could be done to improve things.
http://lainaukset.wordpress.com/ Daniel Schildt

Thanks much for information given in comments. I have been thinking of the same question before and now I know more of what could be done to improve things.
http://lainaukset.wordpress.com/ Daniel Schildt

Thanks much for information given in comments. I have been thinking of the same question before and now I know more of what could be done to improve things.
http://completerunning.com Mark

I get to be the dunce of the class and say that I was getting all pumped about OpenId just the other day but THEN I went to set things up and all I got was confused.

Seriously, if OpenId is supposed to be something simple, it is not – it is, in fact, the opposite. There are so many places to set up an ID, it is quite confounding.

I finally settled on this service:

http://iocchelli.myopenid.com/

But, BUT, I am still confused. Is it the right one? What happens if IT goes under?

And I also have a WordPress account and know that it can act as my OpenId but what the HECK does THAT mean.

I need some serious help.

Just stick the pointy hat on my head and start snickering. I can take it. :)
http://completerunning.com Mark

I get to be the dunce of the class and say that I was getting all pumped about OpenId just the other day but THEN I went to set things up and all I got was confused.

Seriously, if OpenId is supposed to be something simple, it is not – it is, in fact, the opposite. There are so many places to set up an ID, it is quite confounding.

I finally settled on this service:

http://iocchelli.myopenid.com/

But, BUT, I am still confused. Is it the right one? What happens if IT goes under?

And I also have a WordPress account and know that it can act as my OpenId but what the HECK does THAT mean.

I need some serious help.

Just stick the pointy hat on my head and start snickering. I can take it. :)
http://completerunning.com Mark

I get to be the dunce of the class and say that I was getting all pumped about OpenId just the other day but THEN I went to set things up and all I got was confused.

Seriously, if OpenId is supposed to be something simple, it is not – it is, in fact, the opposite. There are so many places to set up an ID, it is quite confounding.

I finally settled on this service:

http://iocchelli.myopenid.com/

But, BUT, I am still confused. Is it the right one? What happens if IT goes under?

And I also have a WordPress account and know that it can act as my OpenId but what the HECK does THAT mean.

I need some serious help.

Just stick the pointy hat on my head and start snickering. I can take it. :)
http://rickmahn.com Rick Mahn

Hi Chris – looks like I’m also way late to mention using your blog as your OpenID – but hey, great minds right…

I forget where I found out how to do it, but yes it’s really just a couple of tags in the blog and selecting a provider. I use Verisign’s PIP which is in beta (https://pip.verisignlabs.com/) not sure if it’ll end up being a pay-for service, but has worked great so far.

Regards,
Rick
http://rickmahn.com Rick Mahn

Hi Chris – looks like I’m also way late to mention using your blog as your OpenID – but hey, great minds right…

I forget where I found out how to do it, but yes it’s really just a couple of tags in the blog and selecting a provider. I use Verisign’s PIP which is in beta (https://pip.verisignlabs.com/) not sure if it’ll end up being a pay-for service, but has worked great so far.

Regards,
Rick
http://rickmahn.com/ Rick Mahn

Hi Chris – looks like I’m also way late to mention using your blog as your OpenID – but hey, great minds right…

I forget where I found out how to do it, but yes it’s really just a couple of tags in the blog and selecting a provider. I use Verisign’s PIP which is in beta (https://pip.verisignlabs.com/) not sure if it’ll end up being a pay-for service, but has worked great so far.

Regards,
Rick
http://schwuk.com Dave Murphy

I am my own OpenID provider on a couple of my domains thanks to phpMyId (http://siege.org/projects/phpMyID). It only hosts a single user (fine for me), and was reasonably easy to setup.

If you host your own site then there’s no reason to rely on a third party for your OpenID.
http://schwuk.com Dave Murphy

I am my own OpenID provider on a couple of my domains thanks to phpMyId (http://siege.org/projects/phpMyID). It only hosts a single user (fine for me), and was reasonably easy to setup.

If you host your own site then there’s no reason to rely on a third party for your OpenID.
http://schwuk.com Dave Murphy

I am my own OpenID provider on a couple of my domains thanks to phpMyId (http://siege.org/projects/phpMyID). It only hosts a single user (fine for me), and was reasonably easy to setup.

If you host your own site then there’s no reason to rely on a third party for your OpenID.
http://www.jonathanmulholland.com Jonathan Mulholland

Hey Mark (http://completerunning.com/)

if hosting your own OpenID provider is a bit over the top for your needs, then I really recommend taking a look at ClaimID.

Aside from providing a very good way of consolidating (and verifying) your online identity, they also off one of the simplest OpenID processes I have seen. See – http://claimid.com/openid
http://www.jonathanmulholland.com Jonathan Mulholland

Hey Mark (http://completerunning.com/)

if hosting your own OpenID provider is a bit over the top for your needs, then I really recommend taking a look at ClaimID.

Aside from providing a very good way of consolidating (and verifying) your online identity, they also off one of the simplest OpenID processes I have seen. See – http://claimid.com/openid
http://www.jonathanmulholland.com Jonathan Mulholland

Hey Mark (http://completerunning.com/)

if hosting your own OpenID provider is a bit over the top for your needs, then I really recommend taking a look at ClaimID.

Aside from providing a very good way of consolidating (and verifying) your online identity, they also off one of the simplest OpenID processes I have seen. See – http://claimid.com/openid
http://kylecooper.net kylecooper

I just wanted to cosign Jonathon’s recommendation of ClaimID.

It’s super simple, the identity management features are awesome (it helped me get on Google’s radar as there is a very well known graphic designer with my name), and it supports adding multiple OpenIDs to your ClaimID account.
http://kylecooper.net kylecooper

I just wanted to cosign Jonathon’s recommendation of ClaimID.

It’s super simple, the identity management features are awesome (it helped me get on Google’s radar as there is a very well known graphic designer with my name), and it supports adding multiple OpenIDs to your ClaimID account.
http://claimid.com/kylecooper Coop

I just wanted to cosign Jonathon’s recommendation of ClaimID.

It’s super simple, the identity management features are awesome (it helped me get on Google’s radar as there is a very well known graphic designer with my name), and it supports adding multiple OpenIDs to your ClaimID account.
http://www.the-infinite.org/blog/ dominic

I’ll belatedly hop on the ClaimID bandwagon as well – I’d looked in to OpenID before, and got confused as soon as I got into the delegation-stuff. ClaimID’s explanation for how to set up delegation is easy, straightforward and they have the added bonus of letting you aggregate OpenID providers.

http://claimid.com/deidson
http://www.the-infinite.org/blog/ dominic

I’ll belatedly hop on the ClaimID bandwagon as well – I’d looked in to OpenID before, and got confused as soon as I got into the delegation-stuff. ClaimID’s explanation for how to set up delegation is easy, straightforward and they have the added bonus of letting you aggregate OpenID providers.

http://claimid.com/deidson
http://www.the-infinite.org/blog/ dominic

I’ll belatedly hop on the ClaimID bandwagon as well – I’d looked in to OpenID before, and got confused as soon as I got into the delegation-stuff. ClaimID’s explanation for how to set up delegation is easy, straightforward and they have the added bonus of letting you aggregate OpenID providers.

http://claimid.com/deidson
http://www.itcamefrommars.co.uk David

I use my domain as my openID i signed up to https://www.myopenid.com/ and slapped

in my website head tag
http://www.itcamefrommars.co.uk David

I use my domain as my openID i signed up to https://www.myopenid.com/ and slapped

in my website head tag
http://www.itcamefrommars.co.uk David

I use my domain as my openID i signed up to https://www.myopenid.com/ and slapped

in my website head tag
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