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	<description>Learn How Human Business Works - Beyond Social Media</description>
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		<title>By: You Can&#8217;t Ignore Your Boss &#171; Media Bullseye &#8211; A New Media and Communications Magazine</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisbrogan.com/shut-up-youre-helping-the-customer/comment-page-3/#comment-195733</link>
		<dc:creator>You Can&#8217;t Ignore Your Boss &#171; Media Bullseye &#8211; A New Media and Communications Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 20:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Brogan, a good guy and a smart social media evangelist, blogged about a Fortune 500 company employee named &#8220;Bob&#8221; who faced just that dilemma. This employee had begun participating in an online forum where he was [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Brogan, a good guy and a smart social media evangelist, blogged about a Fortune 500 company employee named &#8220;Bob&#8221; who faced just that dilemma. This employee had begun participating in an online forum where he was [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Challenging Companies on Social Media &#171; Media Bullseye &#8211; A New Media and Communications Magazine</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisbrogan.com/shut-up-youre-helping-the-customer/comment-page-3/#comment-195730</link>
		<dc:creator>Challenging Companies on Social Media &#171; Media Bullseye &#8211; A New Media and Communications Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 20:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Brogan&#8217;s piece about &#8220;Bob&#8221; and the follow up post have generated quite a bit of chatter. Was Bob right to continue [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Brogan&#8217;s piece about &#8220;Bob&#8221; and the follow up post have generated quite a bit of chatter. Was Bob right to continue [...]</p>
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		<title>By: I Was Told To Stop Twittering &#124; Startpagedesign.com</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisbrogan.com/shut-up-youre-helping-the-customer/comment-page-3/#comment-191810</link>
		<dc:creator>I Was Told To Stop Twittering &#124; Startpagedesign.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 17:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ok, work is fine, but they told me to stop using Twitter to help customers.&#8221;  What?  This sounds familiar.  Delving further in, he had this story to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ok, work is fine, but they told me to stop using Twitter to help customers.&#8221;  What?  This sounds familiar.  Delving further in, he had this story to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Social Media Marketing &#124;</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisbrogan.com/shut-up-youre-helping-the-customer/comment-page-3/#comment-168941</link>
		<dc:creator>Social Media Marketing &#124;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 05:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Now consider you boss telling you not to participate in forum socialising because they simply don&#8217;t think that it is a good idea. What a joke, so you do it anyway and your boss finds out! Now your job, your career is on the line! Full story here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Now consider you boss telling you not to participate in forum socialising because they simply don&#8217;t think that it is a good idea. What a joke, so you do it anyway and your boss finds out! Now your job, your career is on the line! Full story here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Start Page Design Blog (or Thoughts, Ideas, and Other Randomness)</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisbrogan.com/shut-up-youre-helping-the-customer/comment-page-3/#comment-158916</link>
		<dc:creator>The Start Page Design Blog (or Thoughts, Ideas, and Other Randomness)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 21:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ok, work is fine, but they told me to stop using Twitter to help customers.&#8221;  What?  This sounds familiar.  Delving further in, he had this story to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ok, work is fine, but they told me to stop using Twitter to help customers.&#8221;  What?  This sounds familiar.  Delving further in, he had this story to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Human Resource &#187; Investing in Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisbrogan.com/shut-up-youre-helping-the-customer/comment-page-3/#comment-156573</link>
		<dc:creator>The Human Resource &#187; Investing in Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 02:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Last week&#8217;s Talking HR show (006) focused on one &#8216;Bob&#8217;, but today, I&#8217;d like to talk about another: a talented young man who has recently started at [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Last week&#8217;s Talking HR show (006) focused on one &#8216;Bob&#8217;, but today, I&#8217;d like to talk about another: a talented young man who has recently started at [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Travis Wright</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisbrogan.com/shut-up-youre-helping-the-customer/comment-page-3/#comment-148224</link>
		<dc:creator>Travis Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 18:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, I met the real &quot;Bob&quot; yesterday and he shared with me the whole story... and I can say that Bob is a very intelligent and passionate man.  

His interests were to solely help the customer...  but after reading Ron Amundson&#039;s comments above here... you can see how a &quot;slippery slope&quot; can be viewed from inside a very large 20th century corporation.

People fear the unknown... and when someone is being a social media renegade outside of the normal channels of influence... Bob&#039;s company got spooked.

Bob needs to work for an innovative company... and get out of the early 20th century one.

Good luck Bob.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, I met the real &#8220;Bob&#8221; yesterday and he shared with me the whole story&#8230; and I can say that Bob is a very intelligent and passionate man.  </p>
<p>His interests were to solely help the customer&#8230;  but after reading Ron Amundson&#8217;s comments above here&#8230; you can see how a &#8220;slippery slope&#8221; can be viewed from inside a very large 20th century corporation.</p>
<p>People fear the unknown&#8230; and when someone is being a social media renegade outside of the normal channels of influence&#8230; Bob&#8217;s company got spooked.</p>
<p>Bob needs to work for an innovative company&#8230; and get out of the early 20th century one.</p>
<p>Good luck Bob.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Amundson</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisbrogan.com/shut-up-youre-helping-the-customer/comment-page-3/#comment-147312</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Amundson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The graphic likely give it away in that the industry is ag related, then add in F500 and priced such that a Mercedes is cheap, and it could well be harvesting equipment for biotech, ie genetically modified corn for big pharma comes to mind, as a potential worst case scenario for social media engagement.

There are regulatory hurdles for sure to say nothing of liability issues plus a plain old PR mess within the local ag community. The average Joe is likely to be non to happy to learn that the field he passes on a daily basis is actually some type of GMO corn used in the realm of infectious disease pharmacology, whether it be curative or weapons grade is less of an issue that it exists at all in his neighborhood. Its one of the reasons biotech crops and associated info is held very close irrespective of intellectual property issues, as its a PR nightmare waiting to happen.

Then add in it being an F500 company, and its likely there is a huge after sales support infrastructure, likely involving a multitude of third parties. It does not impress third party support at all when a customer has insider information that they themselves are not privy too.

All of these things combined point to the need for centralized message control, and what might have started out as something very positive and forward looking, ie the forum, made for a ton of upset throughout other parts of the organization, whether it be regulatory, pr, third party support, legal, etc, The end result, it got shut down while they try to see how social media could work (likely a long term decision process as it impacts so much of the org), and no one bothered to explain to Bob what the system wide ramifications were (likely being a large entity, few folks could see the system issues as a whole). 

He sounds like a real go-getter employee, and had he understood what the issues were, he likely would have amended his approach well before getting in trouble with his superiors. (Yep, I&#039;ve had Bob  style guys working for me in the past and have had to reign them in a bit. A full explanation goes a long way in such matters). Ultimately though, he was pushing the limits, and without some type of approval, even an informal skunkworks style, that can backfire pretty fast in a large org.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The graphic likely give it away in that the industry is ag related, then add in F500 and priced such that a Mercedes is cheap, and it could well be harvesting equipment for biotech, ie genetically modified corn for big pharma comes to mind, as a potential worst case scenario for social media engagement.</p>
<p>There are regulatory hurdles for sure to say nothing of liability issues plus a plain old PR mess within the local ag community. The average Joe is likely to be non to happy to learn that the field he passes on a daily basis is actually some type of GMO corn used in the realm of infectious disease pharmacology, whether it be curative or weapons grade is less of an issue that it exists at all in his neighborhood. Its one of the reasons biotech crops and associated info is held very close irrespective of intellectual property issues, as its a PR nightmare waiting to happen.</p>
<p>Then add in it being an F500 company, and its likely there is a huge after sales support infrastructure, likely involving a multitude of third parties. It does not impress third party support at all when a customer has insider information that they themselves are not privy too.</p>
<p>All of these things combined point to the need for centralized message control, and what might have started out as something very positive and forward looking, ie the forum, made for a ton of upset throughout other parts of the organization, whether it be regulatory, pr, third party support, legal, etc, The end result, it got shut down while they try to see how social media could work (likely a long term decision process as it impacts so much of the org), and no one bothered to explain to Bob what the system wide ramifications were (likely being a large entity, few folks could see the system issues as a whole). </p>
<p>He sounds like a real go-getter employee, and had he understood what the issues were, he likely would have amended his approach well before getting in trouble with his superiors. (Yep, I&#8217;ve had Bob  style guys working for me in the past and have had to reign them in a bit. A full explanation goes a long way in such matters). Ultimately though, he was pushing the limits, and without some type of approval, even an informal skunkworks style, that can backfire pretty fast in a large org.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefano Maggi</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisbrogan.com/shut-up-youre-helping-the-customer/comment-page-3/#comment-147183</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefano Maggi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a nasty story. But it&#039;s a symbol of &quot;old style&quot; approach to digital media. I think everything is on the move, also in less advanced industries and for less pioneer brands. Of course this reminds us Social Media is not a way of thinking for every brand / company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a nasty story. But it&#8217;s a symbol of &#8220;old style&#8221; approach to digital media. I think everything is on the move, also in less advanced industries and for less pioneer brands. Of course this reminds us Social Media is not a way of thinking for every brand / company.</p>
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		<title>By: Leigh Duncan-Durst</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisbrogan.com/shut-up-youre-helping-the-customer/comment-page-3/#comment-147127</link>
		<dc:creator>Leigh Duncan-Durst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Posted a response on my site. 

This is all too familiar. Bob could really be any of us. Bob should consider showing his boss and other folks transcripts of his talks, and these posts... but it is entirely possible the writing is on the wall. It&#039;s sad, because they&#039;re going after a guy who wants to do the right thing for the company and the customers.

Ultimately, perhaps should probably consider shaking the dust off his feet and going to work for the competition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posted a response on my site. </p>
<p>This is all too familiar. Bob could really be any of us. Bob should consider showing his boss and other folks transcripts of his talks, and these posts&#8230; but it is entirely possible the writing is on the wall. It&#8217;s sad, because they&#8217;re going after a guy who wants to do the right thing for the company and the customers.</p>
<p>Ultimately, perhaps should probably consider shaking the dust off his feet and going to work for the competition.</p>
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