Third Place in Cyberspace

November 22, 2007 · Comments

girl in coffeeshop Starbucks hit on a powerful business model when they decided to sell coffee drinks and snacks at premium prices in a nicely-maintained place that encouraged people to sit and enjoy what they called a “third place,” between work and home. Brilliant, really, because they took a commodity drink and turned it into a premium pampering experience. Others have successfully cloned this feeling in other areas. In some cases, you could say just the product being upscale is good, like Cold Stone Creamery ice cream versus your run-of-the-mill shop. But that’s not the magic, to me. The magic is the Third Place idea.

Third Space?

Where is that place on the web that gives us that feeling of being somewhere between work and home? Where is that place that makes us feel pampered, catered to, and more pliant to advertising? Because oh by the way, Starbucks markets and advertises the HELL out of you while you’re in their court. And yet, lots of it feels like we want it. Fine by me. If you do a great advertising job, and I feel comfy, cool!

But where is that place? What would it be like? What would we expect out of a space like this?

No WORK to Maintain

Keeping up with most social networks feels like work. I mean, it’s a conversation, and there are plenty of those out there (Seesmic, Utterz, Twitter, Jaiku, Pownce). But is there a place where we can just hang, sigh, and enjoy our cup of relaxation? (What form does digital relaxation take?)

Not a Bad Place to Do Work

Lots of us use Starbucks as a place to get online and do work. So maybe our Third Place has to have that ability, too. Is somewhere specific coming to mind? No. Me neither.

Is There a “Third Place” Opportunity for the Web?

And if so, who’s going to figure it out? I’m betting lately on Google. Here’s why:

  • Google lets me use mail or chat to have conversations.
  • Google lets me work on docs and other apps.
  • Google lets me browse the news (especially my Reader).
  • Google’s ads aren’t that intrusive.
  • Google has more to gain from figuring this out even further.

What do you think?

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  • Starbucks provides a "third place" that's a hybrid between home (minus the family drama and ennui) and work (minus the stress and deadlines).

    To find that "third place" online, you'd need to first know:

    * Where is your HOME on the web, and
    * Where is your WORK on the web?

    From there, you can identify what experiential aspects a person would need to consider that "third place" essential to their daily routine but not so mundane as to be taken for granted.

    The "third place" has to be a treat.
  • Is this where Second Life could really come into it's own? Maybe Susan Reynolds should lead the way on this one....

    Doing business meetings on Skype or even IChat is not warm and cosy. A virtual world could provide that. Maybe instead of enjoying a latte (which you can make at home anyway) I could enjoy the buzz of background Twitters, whilst chatting to business colleague avatars (instead of horrid video images or a static photo), being fed and watered by a call out coffee and cake delivery service serving my area, where I place my order in SL. I like it. Why doesn't StarBucks branch out to the home coffee house SL market? Would need to be 24/7....
  • I think I've missed you so! (not a real answer, but it's the truth) I've been so busy with "work" I never find the time to visit the blogs I love to read. Thank you for all you do Chris, always giving your readers something to think about!

    I hope that you and your family will have a fabulous Thanksgiving. I am so grateful for the wonderful people I've met on the Internet - like you! God bless you hon, and best wishes for continued success.
  • the third place will probably continue to be where we find like-minded people (at least one shared interest)on a social network or where it is easy tosee what our friends and "friends" are doing on other sites (Plaxo).....What a goldmine of a blog!
    Thanks

    In a civilization when love is
    gone we turn to justice and when
    justice is gone we turn to power
    and when power is gone we
    turn to violence.

    Opportunity is often inconvenient.
  • cool!
  • Spot on. GoogleWorld has everything going for it in my book. The acquisitions lately are most telling.

    I don't hold with people who say that privacy is an issue.

    In the same way a bank can't afford to be seen as losing people's money - google could never afford to break someone's privacy.

    More power to the company that sorted out the internet.

    Before them it was spam heaven.
  • The weird thing is Podcamp feels like that third space as well- the likemind center of the universe, a weekend at a time.

    Twitter is my watercooler- my virtual starbucks way of chatting with dispersed friends. But it is a place I just go and grab a "fix" rather than hang out there.

    If there was a way to have a group ichat sort of place....but is that Ustream/Blog TV, if it allowed multiple people to participate at once independent of where they were located? Screen flipping to the person talking at any particular time, automatically, like a changing slide on keynote?

    I know I find the learning curve on second life daunting, but maybe after FiOS it will improve enough to cease being so frustrating for me.

    What I want is a way to hang out with my friends, online, that feels just like hanging out in my house, or at a restaurant- a virtual experience that feels as great as the real thing.

    That's my idea of a virtual third space, anyway. Great post, Chris!
  • I think it depends what you're going to use social networks for. From different perspectives, people might view websites as third spaces or just more work.
  • I agree with your take on Google ! I have always felt it is a very professionally run firm combining, language, art, mathematics !
    The have applied science and created a tool that enables everyone to learn by research ! Research is plain dam hard work ! Now with Google kids can start to expand their interests ! My basic premise is we can save the world if that's you bag, by teaching kids to Read ! Let the Church save their Souls, we can save their minds ! The US had let the educational system fail ! We are losing jobs because are kids are undereducated ! This Greening of America just covers up basics like education ! Seriously we have a science ignorant segment of the US that feels stem cell research is the work of the devil ! Why because they read and do not comprehend ! Dam it my soap box just collapsed ! Keep Googling!
  • Greetings!

    Quite coincidentally, I just had myself a Starbucks. I agree that the establishment of this Third Place concept is really great. Before Starbucks, did we ever have something like that? Probably. But nothing as grand and as universal as Starbucks. Google is great. But I'm leaning towards Facebook.
  • Beta Bonnie
    Chris and readers, to me, an ideal third place would be a quantum place -- a place where we could live our past, present and future simultaneously.

    It would be a place where people could access and experientially share every book they've ever read, every town, city or country they've ever visited, every musical work they've ever heard, every person they've ever encountered, and every feeling they've ever felt. Perhaps we'd call it MyMind or Mindbook. Anyone designing an app for that yet?


    BTW, Ray Oldenburg, an urban sociologist, coined the term third place in 1989 in his book, The Great Good Place.

    betaBonnie
    Richmond, VA
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