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		<title>By: Trust as Currency</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisbrogan.com/who-is-secretly-pitching-you/comment-page-1/#comment-199156</link>
		<dc:creator>Trust as Currency</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 05:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] social media and community. While reading his new book Social Media 101 I came across Chapter 48: Who Is Secretly Pitching You? The version of this post in the book adds the context that this post generated the idea for [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] social media and community. While reading his new book Social Media 101 I came across Chapter 48: Who Is Secretly Pitching You? The version of this post in the book adds the context that this post generated the idea for [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Social Media and &#34;The Pitch&#34; &#171; rickweiss.ca</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisbrogan.com/who-is-secretly-pitching-you/comment-page-1/#comment-125058</link>
		<dc:creator>Social Media and &#34;The Pitch&#34; &#171; rickweiss.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 23:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Chris Brogan asks on his blog whether stealth pitches through social media have a negative effect on our behaviour or view of an organization. He argues that pitches should be transparent. If you’re pitching on behalf of somebody else, as in, you’re being paid to pitch something, be up-front. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Chris Brogan asks on his blog whether stealth pitches through social media have a negative effect on our behaviour or view of an organization. He argues that pitches should be transparent. If you’re pitching on behalf of somebody else, as in, you’re being paid to pitch something, be up-front. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Asad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Asad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 03:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to let you know your link at the bottom of this post to your newsletter isnt working because of an extra s. Thanks for the great read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to let you know your link at the bottom of this post to your newsletter isnt working because of an extra s. Thanks for the great read.</p>
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		<title>By: chrisbrogan</title>
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		<dc:creator>chrisbrogan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Great policies and ideas from everyone. Thanks so much for your points of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Great policies and ideas from everyone. Thanks so much for your points of view.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Getgood</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisbrogan.com/who-is-secretly-pitching-you/comment-page-1/#comment-120225</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Getgood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since I make my living helping people promote their products and services, I had to develop a personal policy for this early on. 

When I am compensated in some fashion, whether it is for client work or simply some sort of freebie from a non-client, or if I was explicitly pitched on something, I disclose. Every time. And in the case of pitching clients on my own blogs or via social networks like Twitter, I do it sparingly. 

On the other hand, if I am writing purely of my own volition, for example the weekly sci fi column I write on my personal blog, I don&#039;t put the &quot;negative disclaimer,&quot; ie that no one provided services or free DVDs for the review.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I make my living helping people promote their products and services, I had to develop a personal policy for this early on. </p>
<p>When I am compensated in some fashion, whether it is for client work or simply some sort of freebie from a non-client, or if I was explicitly pitched on something, I disclose. Every time. And in the case of pitching clients on my own blogs or via social networks like Twitter, I do it sparingly. </p>
<p>On the other hand, if I am writing purely of my own volition, for example the weekly sci fi column I write on my personal blog, I don&#8217;t put the &#8220;negative disclaimer,&#8221; ie that no one provided services or free DVDs for the review.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura "Pistachio" Fitton</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisbrogan.com/who-is-secretly-pitching-you/comment-page-1/#comment-120186</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura "Pistachio" Fitton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t it a little odd though, that we still want to draw such a big line between &quot;celebrities&quot; and &quot;regular people&quot; where it comes to product endorsements? We get all introspective about &quot;ordinary people&quot; having a paid involvement with a brand, but we completely expect that anything Tiger Woods is wearing is from a sponsor. This perception needs to shift.

Celebrities are valuable to brands because they aggregate trust and attention. There have always been &quot;ordinary people&quot; who do this, but social media permits increasing levels of &quot;non-celebrity aggregation of trust and attention.&quot; (How&#039;s that for slick coinage?) People should make their best efforts to disclose. But the audience is not always going to notice/hear that disclosure for various reasons. 

Ex: I&#039;ve made it clear a number of times that Qik made it possible for me to use/demonstrate their application, but how can I append that information to every single Qik video I send?

The trust and value of relationship may even matter more than the disclosure. Whether or not a financial relationship exists, is the information you get from that person genuinely helpful in your own life? Be a discerning friend/consumer/audience and you&#039;ll be less susceptible to profound shills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it a little odd though, that we still want to draw such a big line between &#8220;celebrities&#8221; and &#8220;regular people&#8221; where it comes to product endorsements? We get all introspective about &#8220;ordinary people&#8221; having a paid involvement with a brand, but we completely expect that anything Tiger Woods is wearing is from a sponsor. This perception needs to shift.</p>
<p>Celebrities are valuable to brands because they aggregate trust and attention. There have always been &#8220;ordinary people&#8221; who do this, but social media permits increasing levels of &#8220;non-celebrity aggregation of trust and attention.&#8221; (How&#8217;s that for slick coinage?) People should make their best efforts to disclose. But the audience is not always going to notice/hear that disclosure for various reasons. </p>
<p>Ex: I&#8217;ve made it clear a number of times that Qik made it possible for me to use/demonstrate their application, but how can I append that information to every single Qik video I send?</p>
<p>The trust and value of relationship may even matter more than the disclosure. Whether or not a financial relationship exists, is the information you get from that person genuinely helpful in your own life? Be a discerning friend/consumer/audience and you&#8217;ll be less susceptible to profound shills.</p>
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		<title>By: GeekMommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeekMommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part of what made me walk away from sales way-back-when was that I really couldn&#039;t bring myself to sell things I didn&#039;t believe in.

When I do believe in something, I get passionate about it... and it&#039;s easy to sell something you&#039;re passionate about.

But it&#039;s no big surprise to find out that there are people paid to shill... Whether it&#039;s the &quot;I used product X to lose 100 lbs!&quot; in a magazine, or the &quot;product X changed my life&quot; on a blog - it&#039;s not going to surprise anyone.

But anyone taking the word of just one source w/out doing their own research is an easy target for that sort of thing.

I advocate products and companies I have positive experiences with - but likewise, I don&#039;t hesitate to speak out when I have a negative experience.  The trick to spotting a shill is that they tend not to do the latter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of what made me walk away from sales way-back-when was that I really couldn&#8217;t bring myself to sell things I didn&#8217;t believe in.</p>
<p>When I do believe in something, I get passionate about it&#8230; and it&#8217;s easy to sell something you&#8217;re passionate about.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s no big surprise to find out that there are people paid to shill&#8230; Whether it&#8217;s the &#8220;I used product X to lose 100 lbs!&#8221; in a magazine, or the &#8220;product X changed my life&#8221; on a blog &#8211; it&#8217;s not going to surprise anyone.</p>
<p>But anyone taking the word of just one source w/out doing their own research is an easy target for that sort of thing.</p>
<p>I advocate products and companies I have positive experiences with &#8211; but likewise, I don&#8217;t hesitate to speak out when I have a negative experience.  The trick to spotting a shill is that they tend not to do the latter.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Kephart</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisbrogan.com/who-is-secretly-pitching-you/comment-page-1/#comment-120162</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Kephart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love that your post ends with a plug for Skitch :) Which, by the way, may be the reason I needed to buy a Mac again after ten years. Thanks.

Seriously, though, it is a question of reputation, online as well as offline. In the end, all we have is that reputation - for honesty, reliability, compassion, whatever. Almost everyone knows the difference between the reliability of the news from The National Enquirer versus The New York Times. We know which of the people in our personal &quot;real life&quot; circle of friends and acquaintances are honest and dependable.

That knowledge does translate to the online world. Which is why bloggers who decide to get involved with the Pay Per Posts of the world will create questions about their overall honesty, regardless of whether they&#039;re actually getting paid to write about something or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love that your post ends with a plug for Skitch :) Which, by the way, may be the reason I needed to buy a Mac again after ten years. Thanks.</p>
<p>Seriously, though, it is a question of reputation, online as well as offline. In the end, all we have is that reputation &#8211; for honesty, reliability, compassion, whatever. Almost everyone knows the difference between the reliability of the news from The National Enquirer versus The New York Times. We know which of the people in our personal &#8220;real life&#8221; circle of friends and acquaintances are honest and dependable.</p>
<p>That knowledge does translate to the online world. Which is why bloggers who decide to get involved with the Pay Per Posts of the world will create questions about their overall honesty, regardless of whether they&#8217;re actually getting paid to write about something or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Wolff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Wolff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I noticed as I followed the bunch of you (Twitter, mostly) to SxSW is the mutual exchange of plugola. These early adopters signal the end of &quot;hey, I like to consume this product made by this big entity, and you will too&quot; and the beginning of &quot;hey, I&#039;m a little guy, yet I made this product, and you will like to consume it&quot;. Media as an industry particularly lends itself to this. But don&#039;t pretend for a minute that plugola is a trait you can shed just because you&#039;re embracing new media. As a result, the casual consumer will have to wade through more plugola than ever before, and the medium will be the message for some time to come. SxSW did nothing but verify this suspicion for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I noticed as I followed the bunch of you (Twitter, mostly) to SxSW is the mutual exchange of plugola. These early adopters signal the end of &#8220;hey, I like to consume this product made by this big entity, and you will too&#8221; and the beginning of &#8220;hey, I&#8217;m a little guy, yet I made this product, and you will like to consume it&#8221;. Media as an industry particularly lends itself to this. But don&#8217;t pretend for a minute that plugola is a trait you can shed just because you&#8217;re embracing new media. As a result, the casual consumer will have to wade through more plugola than ever before, and the medium will be the message for some time to come. SxSW did nothing but verify this suspicion for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Nabilah Said</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nabilah Said</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post. I guess trust just has to be earned, and that takes time. It&#039;s more than just a case of saying &quot;Trust me&quot;, it&#039;s about all your other actions taken as a whole that inspires trust (In fact, someone who says &quot;Trust me&quot; should usually be viewed with suspicion).

I wouldn&#039;t say that pitching is bad per se, like you said, it&#039;s a bit hard to avoid sometimes. But it&#039;s not right if you&#039;re using the relationship you have with someone solely to pitch something without him being made aware of it. That&#039;s called taking advantage of people. And as in the real world, that&#039;s never nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post. I guess trust just has to be earned, and that takes time. It&#8217;s more than just a case of saying &#8220;Trust me&#8221;, it&#8217;s about all your other actions taken as a whole that inspires trust (In fact, someone who says &#8220;Trust me&#8221; should usually be viewed with suspicion).</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t say that pitching is bad per se, like you said, it&#8217;s a bit hard to avoid sometimes. But it&#8217;s not right if you&#8217;re using the relationship you have with someone solely to pitch something without him being made aware of it. That&#8217;s called taking advantage of people. And as in the real world, that&#8217;s never nice.</p>
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