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YouTube is Losing Hundreds of Millions a Month

June 30, 2008

Think about this, oh followers of the Cult of Chad: where do YOU go to remember old TV clips, to find out what your favorite bands from high school and college sound like these days, the trailer for that new movie? YouTube, right? It’s easy. It’s right there. Powerful search, billions of videos, and nothing too tricky to watching one. And yet, I think they’re missing out on hundreds of millions of dollars a month. Here’s how.

Affiliate Sales

I went searching for the mashup David Usher’s Kill the Lights single mixed with the new Batman Dark Knight movie trailer. (By the way, Google threw out a Mitch Joel link before even YouTube - good Google juice, Mitch!) I wanted to watch this:

(Go on, watch it. I’ll wait.)

Now, what should come next? I’ll tell you what: YouTube should have a sidebar to that video (legality questions aside) that says, “Why not buy David Usher’s new album?” with an easy click to an Amazon store or whatever. And what else? “Why not pre-order the Batman DVD?” Why not? I’m already turned on by the song and the video. I’m already hopped up, and it’s like free marketing for two products that didn’t spend a dime to get me excited!

There are lots of ways this makes sense. It’s right there: market, interest, pre-selection.

Okay, YouTube: ready, steady, go! Go make money. I’ll be here watching more weird Batman things:

(What do you think? Good idea? Bad idea?)

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Comment by Wedge on June 30, 2008 @ 6:58 pm

Yes, even if they simply became Amazon Affiliates (much like Google Books) they’d make a killing.

Comment by Niels Bom on June 30, 2008 @ 7:01 pm

True…Google is fumbling the ball on this one.

Comment by moskowitz on June 30, 2008 @ 7:05 pm

bandwidth is currency … turn scarcity upside down and focus on “recognition” … willingness to pay is tough to measure … just not that tough … Google does it Amazon wants to do it … two cents

Comment by Jim Kukral on June 30, 2008 @ 7:09 pm

Chris, yep. Youtube is missing out on a lot of cash. I aruged last week in my manifesto about how they’re losing 1.2 BILLION a year in lost “business” revenue. Click my name for the link with video. Compelling I think.

Comment by Znethru on June 30, 2008 @ 7:22 pm

Unnecessary IMHO yoho - anyone interested in buying anything can do so easily via alternative routes.

Comment by Marcos Fargas on June 30, 2008 @ 7:28 pm

Yes, it´s true, the segmentation it´s done.
In Spain our Youtube it´s http://www.dalealplay.com, but since December they need money so they have put too much ads, and not segmented (it´s a shame).
I think the consumer it´s ready for links to Amazon or ebay, maybe it´s dificult to manage this segmented advertising. I sugest a tool like Google Adwords, but for Youtube, with approval from Youtube team.

Marcos Fargas
http://redescolaborativas.blogspot.com/

Comment by Liz Kelleher ~ lizkdc on June 30, 2008 @ 8:26 pm

Tend to agree. Example: imeem. Until recently, could not be bothered with them as Youtube and iTunes between them tended to satisfy my “heard of something cool, go check it” impulses.

The way they’ve got the handy “buy it from either iTunes or Amazon” feature (plus higher quality files) is gradually sucking me over to them more often if Google turns up both a YouTube and an imeem choice.

Comment by david usher on June 30, 2008 @ 9:30 pm

hey chris
i totally agree.
there is such a great opportunity for everyone. we would all win. another song of my songs, ‘black black heart’ became a favorite of the anime world and there must be a hundred different anime videos cut to that song on youtube. ahh if only there was a buy button! now multiply that by all the youtube videos that use music or picture…

Comment by Lee McKusick on June 30, 2008 @ 10:49 pm

I would have to agree also.
I wouldn’t mind a some links like that over in the sidebar, as long as they’re no glaringly ugly or overly obtrusive. Put something subtle, but clear, and I think we’ve found what the ??? before the Profit is. =)

Comment by Darren Daz Cox on June 30, 2008 @ 10:54 pm

that sounds logical to me….

Comment by chrisbrogan on June 30, 2008 @ 10:55 pm

Well, there we go. : )

Comment by Mitch Joel - Twist Image on June 30, 2008 @ 11:13 pm

I’ve argued for a long time that “content is media” and getting people “in the mood” is the way to run it - always. I think the better question is, “why wouldn’t YouTube just try it and let us know?”

No harm. No foul. If no one wants to buy anything, there’s nothing disruptive and if they do… it’s easy.

Comment by Shannon Ehlers on July 1, 2008 @ 1:32 am

Hey Chris, good thought-provoking stuff here!

I had to chime in with my $0.02 - always willing to stir the pot, this time, I’ve supplied a dissenting opinion.

It’s not that I disagree with your premise - they ARE missing out on some money, but is that such a bad thing? The same can be said for Feedburner, Reader, Gmail, and so many other free services (or ad supported services) available thru Google.

There’s a huge opportunity to make money on many of these by serving up alternate content, by hooking users up with related service providers, by tabulating user data and reselling it (they wouldn’t, would they?!), on and on. But eventually it could get, oh, how to say… spammy.

Maybe it just boils down to how “in your face” you make it. As you and others have indicated, there are those of us who would truly appreciate the opportunity to at least consider purchasing related merchandise. However, there are also those “academic purist” types who would feel put upon by such tactics.

One of the things that makes YouTube so cool is that it is simple, just videos in an easy viewer and a way to share. There are ads, of course, but they are unobtrusive. Same with Feedburner - many of us derive value from the many facets of Feedburner without fees. These are just two examples and Google provides many others (Grand Central, Blogger, and Picasa for instance).

Could Google derive some income by cleverly combining purchase opportunities with these services? Certainly. Would it weaken the sense of community that brings many of us back again and again, ultimately weakening Google’s brand? Maybe. Are these monetization schemes part of their core capabilities? I don’t know.

Comment by Chester Chen on July 1, 2008 @ 2:10 am

Thanks for sharing the hilarious video.

Anyway, I think Youtube should hire you. ;)

Comment by youtube downloader on July 1, 2008 @ 2:37 am

Anyway,if there is really a good video,I can accept some ads.

Comment by wanjia on July 1, 2008 @ 3:14 am

Yes,really great idea!Youtube may earn money now if they use this idea

Comment by justin gough on July 1, 2008 @ 3:45 am

Its my understanding that google “can’t know” what its users upload and it protects them from being sued for copyright violations. Although a similar site, hulu.com can target ads because they have less content and less views, but have secured all copyrights to distribute.

Although we know there is a screening process die to the fact that youtube has no porn on their site.

That’s just what I’ve heard about targeted ads on youtube

Comment by What is Your Landing Page Doing? on July 1, 2008 @ 5:51 am

I totally agree with, this is really a no-brainer, but obviously someone is missing a few neurons over at YouTube.

To not take advantage of that massive traffic is really LAME!!!

Interesting post, thanks!

Comment by chrisbrogan on July 1, 2008 @ 7:22 am

@Shannon - but YouTube is an entertainment channel, whereas everything else you’ve pointed out is a utility. Context. In my mind, YouTube is a place where you’d expect a service that complements the entertainment.

Comment by Joe Budde Jr. on July 1, 2008 @ 9:37 am

In lieu of promoting purchasing more content(which the viewer just got for free via YouTube, hulu, or whomever), content creators, and content advertisers the target is the high revenue and high ROI channels:

Concerts and merchandise. (this is something that Disney and the likes of Hannah Montana do so well)

Skip the Amazon affiliate program and head straight to concert ticket affiliate programs, merchandise, bobble heads for crying out loud! Who doesn’t want a bobble head of David Usher? I know I do!

Content ‘owners’ should use the content to drive the consumer to products with higher margins.

It really ties in to a post I wrote about whether content is the means or the ends when generating revenue.

What do you think content’s purpose is while generating revenue?

Comment by Shannon Ehlers on July 1, 2008 @ 9:39 am

Chris,
Yes you make a good point, of course. I basically am in agreement. Especially if it truly is a service to the user (adding value).

The exception for me is that I can envision a slew of video spam professionally designed for high rank and basically published as ads, thus diluting the entertainment value available and requiring us to further sift and parse to find the nugget (Lord knows there is already enough crap there).

-Shannon

Comment by chrisbrogan on July 1, 2008 @ 11:50 am

Shannon - great point. The potential for video spam is high. Ugh. I guess that means a Greasemonkey script would come up.

Comment by Greg Rollett on July 1, 2008 @ 2:21 pm

As long as it is not obtrusive to my viewing. I love the idea, but no company of YouTube’s magnitude has shown me that they can do this without getting in my way. A simple “buy” link that floats to a YouTube branded landing page with related Amazon items might work, in that I wanted to go there. Otherwise I’ll just keep clicking my way into 4 hours of life that I can never get back.

Comment by David Kowarsky on July 1, 2008 @ 3:05 pm

Chris-

Sounds great, and Pandora is a great implementation of this kind of thinking, but there is no UGC there.

To adapt the oft used metaphor from L&O, this kind of monetizing would be fruit from of the poison tree, wouldn’t it? If Youtube was aware, even automatedly, that this was copyrighted material, the legally responsible course of action is to demand proof from the poster that they are the copyright holder and/or simply suspend the account since it’s unlikely to be the case. Making money off it directly (click here to give us money for something illegal one of our users did) would probably get them sued. IANAL, but it seems more than a little thorny.

-Dave

Comment by mike on July 1, 2008 @ 5:56 pm

hey chris,
i like your idea a lot. definitely got me thinking. however, one issue popped up in my mind. if youtube did this affiliate strategy would that lower the value on the other inventory on the site? Not sure on this one. but i could see one of their in video advertisers getting upset if there were an amazon link distracting users from their ad. especially because the affiliate ads would be tempting for many users. the obvious retort to this is that if more users were clicking on affiliate ads, google would make more money. but maybe google doesn’t want to make money for amazon. or maybe they are building some other strategy that would conflict with this affiliate idea. nevertheless, your thinking is really provocative.

Comment by chrisbrogan on July 1, 2008 @ 6:14 pm

@Mike - great point. I can see this mucking with their adsense dollars. Hmmm.

Comment by Amrita on July 2, 2008 @ 10:03 am

Chris,

I wouldn’t like YouTube to have those kinds of ads unless they were done the way iTunes lists what other viewers bought/listened to. I like that iTunes doesn’t use a robot to pretend it is having a conversation with you — i.e. Hi, I noticed you like X, how about buying Y.

I would prefer if YouTube and many others, just kept it simple.

–Amrita

Comment by SomeAudioGuy on July 2, 2008 @ 12:43 pm

I wonder if Amazon would really be keen on this idea, as they’re trying to use their own video units through the affiliate program.

I guess anything that increases sales right?

Comment by Pam Hawk on July 3, 2008 @ 5:48 pm

Brilliant. Surprised they aren’t already doing it.

It took Eggo waffles a long long time to come up with syrup, maybe YouTube will catch on eventually.

Comment by DaveMurr on July 3, 2008 @ 9:47 pm

Yep - YouTube is loosing cash but I don’t think they are built to make money.

I don’t go to YouTube to buy things - the two examples you presented (though good in their own right)did nothing to excite me about the upcoming Dark Knight film - my attentions span lasted all about 20 seconds.

Going to a library - or when I went to the library - I didn’t expect to find ads in the books I read. Same for YouTube, I enjoy their library (free resource) of videos.

So I don’t know how they would go about raking in the dough. I wouldn’t mind if they had a separate link to a YouTube mall - that sold niche related items (video cameras, equipment, books, movie gift certificates, etc).

Maybe that’s how they can make some money??

Comment by Jackie on October 16, 2008 @ 11:59 am

thanks for the sharing video.really you know this job.
by the way i loved your blog..

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  • December 31, 1969 at 4:33 pm Sam Harrelson
    hey chris, check out what jim kukral has said about youtube having a business channel on his blog. similar thoughts.
  • December 31, 1969 at 4:33 pm Darren Daz Cox
    *trying it out*
  • December 31, 1969 at 4:33 pm Igor The Troll
    Google can afford it. lol
  • December 31, 1969 at 4:33 pm Thomas Hawk
    those kids and their damn "free videos."
  • December 31, 1969 at 4:33 pm Chris Brogan
    I'm not saying videos shouldn't be free. I'm saying that I'm already warmed up while enjoying some entertainment. If I wanted a follow-on product, it would be perfect timing.
  • December 31, 1969 at 4:33 pm Phil Glockner
    I just noted on another FF thread that YouTube just added annotations support, but they only work on the youtube site. An attempt at a revenue model? http://friendfeed.com/e/07a99065-f32f-4cf9-87fa-a15d62a807a4/YouTube-Broadcast-Yourself/
  • December 31, 1969 at 4:33 pm Julian Baldwin
    nice idea Chris...why not a little Amazon meets Google

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