19 Presence Management Chores You COULD Do Every Day

June 29, 2009 · Comments

Dan Bricklin and Sharel OmerIf you’re looking to establish your online presence, and build relationships, it’s not the kind of project where you show up, build your profiles, friend a few people, and call it good. It’s a lot like tending the farm. Here are seven particular “chores” you could do every day that should prove beneficial to your online interests.

Twitter

  1. Find seven things worth retweeting in your general feed and share.
  2. Reply to at least five things with full responses (not just “thanks”).
  3. Point out a few people that you admire. It shows your mindset, too.
  4. Follow back at least 10 folks. (I use an automated tool, but this is a personal preference. If you want such, I use SocialToo.)
  5. 10 minutes of just polite two-way chit chat goes far.

Facebook

  1. Check in on birthdays on the home page. (Want a secret? Send the birthday wish via Twitter or email. Feels even more deliberate.)
  2. Respond to any comments on your wall.
  3. Post a status message daily, something engaging or interesting.
  4. Comment on at least seven people’s status messages or updates.
  5. Share at least 3 interesting updates that you find.
  6. If you belong to groups or fan pages, leave a new comment or two.

LinkedIn

  1. Accept any invitations that make sense for you to accept.
  2. Enter any recent business cards to invite them to LinkedIn (if you’re growing your network).
  3. Drop into Q&A and see if you can volunteer 2-3 answers.
  4. Provide 1 recommendation every few days for people you can honestly and fully recommend.
  5. Add any relevant slide decks to the Slideshare app there, or books to the Amazon bookshelf.

Blogs

  1. Visit your blog’s comments section and comment back on at least 5 replies.
  2. If you have a few extra minutes, click through to the blogs of the commenters, and read a post or two and comment back.
  3. While on those sites, use a tool like StumbleUpon and promote their good work.
  4. Write the occasional post promoting the good work of a blog in your community.

It’s Not Easy

Maintaining your online presence takes time. If you look at all I’ve listed above, that’s easily more than an hour of work. But it depends what the value of that presence is to you, if you’re doing this as an individual, or to your organization, if you’re doing this on behalf of a brand or product.

We’ve traded dollars for time, in lots of these equations, as we see the return on our advertising spend diminish. It’s your choice whether you want to maintain an active online presence, or if you want to get away with a bit less.

What do you think?

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  • Well put, Chris. It especially peeves me when I get a Twitter follower notification and check his or her (or its) page and it's all pimp-outs, shout-outs, and/or quotes. I use a rule of "VIP" (Vitals, Interaction, Profile) to vet new Twitter followers and I block or ignore most because of the middle one: Interaction. If people show little or no intent to use Twitter as "social media", I'm not interested in following those users.
  • Let me tell you something: your first piece of advice regarding Twitter is actually crap. Please read this: http://bit.ly/11KqAZ - there's nothing more annoying for a follower than seeing the same tweets reposted over and over, at least five times a day. Please reconsider that. Don't encourage people to disrespect their followers, because they won't get any respect from the ones they follow neither. Thanks.
  • Not retweeting your own stuff. I mean good information you find in other people's tweets.
  • LOL agreed ;-)
  • bencurnett
    Let me tell you something: you should find a way to be more positive in your criticism. Tone goes a long way, and yours needs work. I *do* appreciate how you once said "Please" and ended with "Thanks", and I'll return the favor- Thanks!
  • AGREED! Also, I know that these forums are informal; however, next time you're disparaging others, try using proper grammar. It will add credibility to your argument. ANYWAY, I've been getting overwhelmed with trying to keep up with the ever growing number of social media outlets. I like Chris' advice not only because it's an easy formula to follow, but also because it's narrowed the field down to the most important sites.
  • Cool tips. Have been wondering how to built my presence online and this really helps. Cheers
  • This was really useful. I believe that a regular communication is very important compared to "10 messages a day, and none for next 2 days". This cheat list, I think, I will use as is.
  • Anita Lobo
    Chris, This is a very useful to-do list. On LinkedIn, being active in groups is a great way to network and keep up an 'engaged' online presence. Cheers, Anita Lobo
  • Thanks for another great and insightful article.

    I know it's no skin off your teeth, but I think @Alex got confused between what you were saying and tweeting your own links 10+ times a day, which is what the guy in that article was saying. Retweeting people is a great way to add value to their streams, and share articles that one has found value in (which is actually how I landed up reading this one) - and I can testify that many people that have followed me find value in the links and resources I retweet, along with ones I post normally.

    So, thanks again - this online presence is a lot of work, but I've seen the dividends, and that's only from focusing on my twitter one. I'm sure as I focus more broadly, the rewards will increase!

    Cam
  • getting this printed out, ill stick it on my wall, shall try to make it a habit. Thanks Chris, this is beautiful
  • very useful to have these in a checklist format: doesn't mean I'll do each one of them all the time, but it is helpful to check in on the list and share where it seems the most natural.

    Thanks, as usual, Chris!
  • Chris I like this. We need writers to actually point us and call us to action.

    The funny thing, I think, is people will still look at this and moan, complain, say it's too much - or not enough!

    But it is comforting to know that for many of us, we are doing these things, and to see them in a checklist is just another great well to help us act better.
  • Anyone else read this and go 'oh yeah...' and run off and do it?

    I did about three times.

    Nice, Chris.
  • Great list! I choose to focus on Twitter and Facebook and definitely see dividends with a few daily posts, RTs, and conversations.
  • Great advice (and being quite honest, more than I'm likely to do myself on a regular basis). The one thing I would add is you yourself saying things that are worth reading. I love to get Tweets that touch my heart and/or make me think, and am increasingly quick to unfollow Tweeps who are plugging an MLM or a scheme to get 10000 anonymous followers without having to work at it.
  • This is a very tight training course for sales Chris. I have a group of inside sales reps. If they will follow a routine like they'd be earning trusted advisor status and the phone would ring and ring.

    Thanks for usual innovative yet practical advice.

    -
    Ray
  • Thanks Chris,
    I think most of us reading your blog know we need to do these thing already but its reminders like this that give us that kick in the rear to get back to it. Best comment I've seen so far is from @spartymantz suggestion to print this list out. Its a suggestion I need to follow as my participation in these sites seems to wane at times. They say something becomes habit after 30 days so maybe printing this as a daily to do for the month of July will become my new project.
    Marc...
  • bencurnett
    totally agree. I'm going to be doing the same thing. I let my social media accounts get dusty when I'm diving into projects (especially linkedin). printing out now...
  • I'm forwarding this to my client/new-to-social-media CEO. :) My question is this: where's the line between the company brand, and the employees' personal contributions thereto? Put another way, to what extent should employees be involved with "official" interactions online?

    I'm asking because my client has frequently expressed concern with the time commitment to social media. I'd like to get others involved with blogging, for one, but is there a ratio to how much CEO should be doing vs. others?
  • jeffcutler
    Christa,

    It totally depends on the company and the amount of transparency and participation the CEO is comfortable with.

    Also, while you can measure impact from the participation, your client might not see any ROI or truly revenue-based returns for a while.

    As I train my clients (or try to), don't jump into the deep end too quickly. Spend time listening to your customers, your competitors, yourself and your industry. Then model your participation based on what's realistic from a time, resource and content perspective.

    Hope that helps.
    http://jeffcutler.com
  • Thanks, Jeff. CEO is fine with transparency & participation -- VP/product development will be involved in upcoming white papers and media relations efforts, for one thing.

    This is a fairly new company seeking to establish a brand reputation... still working on getting customers to start with! Part of the issue, we're finding, is that they are coming to social media slowly. We are trying to figure out what our place is in helping them to come online. (The company's value proposition is based on online presence.)
  • This point is interesting to me as I post as the strategic guy for a start-up and i have to real in my own personality as it may not be dead-on message and stray from the company PR reservation, yet I believe (correctly or not) that my conversational personality often succeeds in bringing our application to new users. It is a fine line that to walk in terms of how we represent our brands as individuals engaged in social media.
    The distinctions between LinkedIn (whom we have partnered with) and Twitter and Facebook at the other end of the present predominant spectrum in my world are almost like observing different customs in various country around the world. Your thought?
  • Thanks so much for sharing these daily 'chores' Chris. I was pleased to see that I'm already doing some right - but others need working on ;-)
    This really is a great list!
  • I am honored to be in the picture (On the right) Taken by Chris alongside Dan.

    Build your "Online" Presence is not easy; it takes time, energy and ton of patient with many failures along the way.

    There are a lot of social media experts who dominant this filed and for a new member like me it's very hard to adjust : (, your voice is not heard.

    Luckily there are people like Chris and others who assist the new kids on the block to catch up and try to play… suddenly building an online presence is possible.

    Thank you for a great article and for all the assistance and help along the way ☺
  • brazilnut72
    Thanks! A lot of these things I already do, but there were some that I can definitely put into practice.
  • Very useful tips. I find it does take a lot of time to be present however what this time investment also buys that advertising with not is the communication of the brands personality.

    example. I like how you handled the negative first post. Just a reply post with the correction no emotion or retaliation. It is refreshing. That is why I continue to follow you and read your content. You can't advertise that you have a strong character. But you can display it.
  • Thanks Chris for this, a good guide/checklist to keep in mind....so hard to keep up with all the other things we have to do everyday! How/what do you do with email btw? that really gets out of hand for me...and you as well I'm sure!
  • As always - you are providing incredible value to your readers - and that is key for all of the ideas you provide in this post.

    There are some people I follow on Twitter, for example, who provide consistent value with every tweet. Others who spend a lot of time telling me about what they had for breakfast or how much they like shopping at Neiman Marcus. While it is important for personal branding to reveal your personality, you need to ask yourself "will my followers (friends, contacts, etc.) find this valuable?

    Best.
    William
    www.williamarruda.com
  • Chris- this is a great check off list for every day! Thanks
  • Thanks, Chris. I used to get overwhelmed with the time committment. Now I keep a folder/tag all week of any interesting emails/blogs/info that comes my way. Once a week, I sit down and use Tweetlater to set up tweets for the rest of the week. This way, I know something goes out daily. Then I spend the rest of my week just socializing and retweeting and being spontaneous. This makes for a much more authentic experience for me (& my followers, I hope) and mixes in nicely with my more "official" tweets.

    Thanks for all of the reminders!
  • While I like many of in the list, I disagree with the quantity orientation. Shooting to meet a number each day could result in quantity at the expense of quality (of your interaction).
  • You're not wrong. Shooting for a number can cheapen the results.
  • Thanks for this list. While I use Facebook and Twitter, I have not been diligent connecting via LinkedIn. Your ideas gave me effective ideas to get started there.
  • Brandon Mendelson
    As long as you're willing to put the work in, which can take years, it's worth it to do all of these things.

    Although I confess Facebook and Linkedin are not exactly high on my priority list, not my audience.
  • Chris,

    Oh how we love your suggestions. Always tight!
  • You've got some great suggestions for those who want to take this seriously. Thanks!
  • jeffcutler
    Finding the time to do this stuff is actually pretty easy. And it's effective. Good post Chris. Like the birthday tip too. I too often let those go by unacknowledged but I'm the first to make a big deal about my birthday month, birthday week, birthday day and birthday hour.
  • I love you again, Chris! I am printing this off and putting it over my desk. Sooooo when I get an interruption I wont spin my wheels! I seem to be getting lost in all these things and never finishing my list! And you are right, this is important to me, to our company and our clients.

    NOW go back to your vacation - you have given us something to do.
  • jeffcutler
    Oh, Dan had that same plaid shirt on at the Scott Kirsner event at BU the other night. But he said he owns a whole closet of them, so they might tend to look the same. :-)
  • This is just what I was looking for. Great way to invest in your online presence. Really need to use the LinkedIn tips.
  • Thanks for this list. It all makes a lot of sense and while I do update my twitter and facebook pages daily, I could definitely do more to send feedback to friends and help promote them as well. I think I tend to focus too much on updating people about what I'm doing while not paying enough attention to what they're doing. Thanks for the "a-ha" moment.
  • 19 excellent tips, Chris. I'm practicing #3 right now. The Katnip Awards. http://bit.ly/LEueW
  • I find your information invaluable. I am being asked (and paid) to keep up multiple social media accounts for clients. Trying to find valuable content in diverse business areas is a challenge. I am the one who takes the "trust agent" concept to heart. But I am having trouble getting the principals involved in the process. Any ideas?
    Christine
  • Thanks Chris. Great post to start the week with. I'll be trying my best to keep up with my own list of presence chores, but for those of us in agency land, it's definitely a challenge. Involves evolution in terms of client relationships, team structure and expectations. But it's worth the ride!
  • I'll second all of that whole-heartedly! It can be especially challenging when there are few client-side resources to maintain efforts and those on-board with social media in the first place are limited to the Marketing department. I do not personally recommend having us (the agency) communicate on their behalf as I've seen it end badly in many (very public) cases. I keep working at evolving the collaboration piece of the social media strategy to help alleviate some of the burden without committing to representing them full-time. Work in progress, as I'm sure you know.
  • What a GREAT post. I love all of the ideas and I'm so glad you shared them here.
  • Great list. I tend to slacken on these, but I definitely see the benefits of a consistent effort. Thanks for penning these down.
  • loopbiz
    Thank you Chris, good ideas. The time commitment is the hardest thing, so each of us has to decide what works for us. Adding useful comments to help someone else is important, as is interacting - adding thought-provoking ideas and occasionally eliciting responses. There is still nothing quite as social as picking up the phone and talking to someone, which you can do if you seem to have a good match with someone.

    Alex, I suggest you do two things 1 - read more carefully, 2 - work on your social skills. Maybe you are tired, but calling this suggestion crap isn't very nice and you could have said almost the same thing with less meanness - and I'm not talking about political correctness here - just think about the effect you have on the person you're talking to and all the other people who read your post or response and what that will mean for people who follow you (or drop you like a hot cake). None of us are perfect, but I see a massive amount of negativity on your own website. I have thick skin, but I can tell you negativity grates on me and I won't be following you any time soon.

    Sorry to rant on your dime, Chris, I liked what you wrote. Each of us must decide what works for us. Process plus social networking is helpful.
  • As usual Chris provides great tips for all. I like how you list ways in the various different social media venues.

    Thanks.
  • Matt Bogen
    Shouldn't you be engaging with people because you want to? The thought of everybody following this advice in using social media is terrifying.
  • The fallacy regarding @Alex comments is that people have the time to monitor what YOU post all day. That is just silly. There is so much BS about Twitter.

    Let's say you have 2,000 followers. If you make a post you will be lucky if 40 of your followers see that specific post. That is 2% and I have some tests on it.

    Post the same thing again one hour later and the chances of the same people seeing that post are extremely low. After all, do YOU monitor all the posts that come from your followers at all hours of the day? I hope not unless you are a professional Twitter dude or dudette (though there seem to be some of those, too).

    I am cutting back on my Twitter time to maybe 1/2 hour a day (if I can control myself since I love Twitter so much). I am going to expand my Facebook presence greatly and also work on LinkedIn. If I give 1/2 hour to each of those, that leaves the rest of the day for productive thought and actions.

    This is one of my favorite posts ever, Chris. SOLID, printed out.
  • Thanks Chris for the great lists. Part of my job is maintaining the online presence for my company and not only does this list apply to personal online presence, but it is definitely applicable to maintaining a company presence as well. The trouble I have, is maintaining both.
  • Great list - suitable for printing up and tacking up on your wall to run through every day - or use as a model to tailor it a bit more specifically to your organization's specific needs and goals.

    I do have on addendum, however. The 20th, critical, item this list is missing is measurement. Make an attempt to tie your interactions to outcomes. It's challenging, and like anything else, takes some time - you won't see measurable results with every single tweet, LinkedIn answer, share, or comment - but you might uncover some surprises. And if you can believably tie a deal or sale to a micro-interaction, you'll be a lot more likely to get happy buy-in for further investment in the medium.
  • There's a good way for you to make a few dollars: print off little reminder sheets for people to stick on their monitors, just a few inches wide. Have them laminated and sell them for $2 a piece.

    This is all great advice... What it requires from us is a little organization, dedication and effort.

    Thanks!
  • Nikhil Vaswani
    Thats a lot of sites with a lot of uses! But I guess, soon one will see convergence in social networking sites. Much like the search engines where Google has emerged as the leader. Till that point of time, its up to us to utilize the above sites to the maximum.

    By the way, I am new to LinkedIn and have found this resource quite useful. It is a new book called "How to REALLY use LinkedIn" by networking expert Jan Vermeiren. Check it out, you can find a free lite version at http://www.how-to-really-use-linkedin.com/
  • I wanted to expand a bit on number 18.

    I also thinking picking a social bookmarking platform and sticking with it has huge benefits. Specifically if you are using the bookmarking site to promote your own material, promote interesting material by others and promote material about you or your brand.

    I make it a point to do all 3 of those things a few times a week in StumbleUpon and I've seen a significant traffic increase since I've fully embraced the service. Using SU.PR (stumbleupon's new short url service) has also made this whole process a lot easier.
  • Chris. Good advice sir. I wrote a piece last week on the value we as bloggers and entrepreneurs place on your community. The bottom line: You get what you give. The more involved and engaged you are within your community audience, they more willing they will be participate in discussions and promote you. Make time for them and they'll be more than happy to sing your praises.
  • You've talked these "e-chores" in the past, Chris, but it's good to see you reminding us what it takes to stay out there, building your brand. You could easily add in several more hours of work if you're link building or reading/comments on other blogs.
  • marvinforte
    Very helpful tips. Most of them are common sense but it's a great reminder/checklist for all of us.

    The lesson I have learned is that getting involved takes lots of consistent small tasks. It's easy to get discouraged by the big picture, just spend a few minutes here and there and over time, it adds up.

    I give my clients advice about how to get more involved in Social Media and this list will help me give them better advice. Thanks Chris!
  • I really liked the concise rundown here. Good to know that the hour I spend doing this stuff is about average
  • Don't forget the LinkedIn groups. Participating in professional groups on LinkedIn is a great way to collaborate with people outside of your network and meet new professionals you might want to connect with.

    Laura
  • Thanks for these 19 points ... I need to get more up to date with LinkedIn.!
  • Good post. Coming up with a similar list for my own ventures has been on my todo list, but it's good to have your perspective too.
  • An excellent list of daily habits for establishing an influential online presence. Now all I need is a list for how to add more hours to the day! I will try my best! Thanks, @TravelSocial
  • Thank you, this is a great place for me to start; I've been "facebooking" for years, but only recently tried using Twitter (more for my business than for personal), and it really can be overwhelming!
  • Thanks Chris for another excellent post.
  • Great list of actions: PayItForwardFriday is one way we keep a positive spin on making sure people remember to recommend people.
  • goedeb
    I think this is a good "to do" list -- especially for folks who are newer to the concept of using Social Media to boost their professional and/or business presence.
  • gacconsultants
    Excellent chores here Chris... this is manageable, doesn't take but 1 or 1.5 hrs or so to complete the work and is an interactive way to build a presence on multiple platforms. Thanks for sharing : ) think I will share it too...

    Mark
  • Hey Chris,

    Great tips! When you see everything broken down the way you did here, it definately makes managing your online presence simpler. It also helps you make sure that everything you're doing is relevant, not just mundane and day to day (I really hate when people Twitter or update Facebook with things like "Now I'm eating lunch").

    On that note, I have passed this information onto our SEO/Social Media manager here at VBP. This post is a must-read for anyone running an SEO/SEM program.

    Keep the information coming. And kudos on the great work!

    Tessa Carroll
    VBP OutSourcing
  • I followed a few steps here, including adding a few answers on LinkedIN, and immediately made a potentially lucrative connection. Thanks!
  • Does this mean I've been wasting my time of friendster?!?
  • Yup yup yup. I always love how you focus on relationships rather than numbers.
  • What I love about this post is that everyone and their brother talks about how you need to work hard to manage and improve your online presence (including myself). But they don't say HOW to do it with an exact plan. You just provided this plan. Awesome.
  • Jay
    Did you actually just write that being friends with people is a chore that should prove beneficial to your online interests?

    It might "feel even more deliberate" if you sent that to each of your friends in a tweet!

    ... you're starting to scare me with this stuff, man.
  • Wonderful list! And a great post idea for me to talk about on my blog to my readers - with my own twist of course ;)

    However I disagree with the first "gentleman" re: tweeting your own information more than once a day - especially if you don't have the followers that Chris does that will retweet a really terrific post like this one over 600 times.

    My reasoning behind recommending that my readers tweet their blog posts / articles throughout the day is because most followers don't sit at their computers all day long and might only see in once depending on when they sit down. I don't read every single tweet that goes by even of my favs like Chris Brogan. If some of your followers don't get on Twitter until after work they will very likely miss what you tweeted about in the morning,

    But as Chris pointed out - his first item on the list was to find OTHER PEOPLE'S TWEETS that are valuable and RT. I usually do this several times throughout the day.
  • I am grateful for the suggestions on social networking. As a small business owner specializing in Women First Time Home Buyers, Residential Leasing & Affordable Lakefront Vacation Property, I am constantly trying to maximize my marketing dollars while effectively staying in front of my market. I have a deep appreciation for social networking and believe it is the way of the future. I take that back it is the way NOW!
  • I personally need to see more step by step article such as this one. I find that there is a lack of practical advice.... I've been through university and have become suspicious of people who give too much theory.
  • srinin
    PRO = PResence Online? LOL!
    Good practical tips. Yeah, time consuming though! But nothing strained nothing gained, ain't it?
  • srinin
    PRO = PResence Online? LOL!
    Good practical tips. Yeah, time consuming though! But nothing strained nothing gained, ain't it?
  • Great advice & full of common sense. While the initiatives listed may seem time consuming, the benefits can be enourmous
  • Yes,it's not a easy thing to do,the key is persist to do this!
  • Denis
    hey Chris,

    lovely social schedule! :D

    what about linkedin?
  • Denis
    ho dear, I am sorry, I just noticed the linkedin section!
  • Thank you very much for an informative article ... As I have just taken over as the Director of Marketing and Communications for this university in the Middle East, which by the way has never done any marketing in their 5 years of existence, I found your suggestions to be right on the money ...

    I am currently constructing our social networking presence, and I will be sure to follow your advice in maintaining and building that presence ... Aside from the sites you mentioned, are there any others you would recommend? I am thinking to concentrate on 5 or 6 sites and would appreciate any recommendations you may have ...

    Gregory Morris
  • I love your blog. But I must say that several of my co-worker's still need to have a hard copy when I share. Could you add the functionality to print a copy of your posts without the comments below? They could still get the heart of a post without killing so many trees.

    Thanks
  • #11 is huge! I've started accepting LinkedIn invitations that make sense for me to accept. Makes a world of difference.

    I think the inverse is probably true too: don't accept the invitations that don't make sense. (maybe a separate bullet, or post?). Of course, everyone has their own criteria for deciding what makes sense regarding managing their own presence online, but definitely choose based on that criteria once you've defined it.
  • Thanks for these social media routines :)
  • Hi Chis,
    Yours is one of the few feeds I don't delete without viewing every day. You usually have something relevant and useful to me to say, but this post goes over the top! I've been frenetic trying to figure out a way to manage all this effectively and without losing it. In fact, I even started looking around for a book (hint) on the topic.

    So, thanks for meeting my most dire need when it most needed to be met.

    Mary Anne
  • Great suggestions. Know what? I'm going to put many of them to the test - starting today. Will measure and track my numbers, and maybe do a blog post about it at the end of July. Thanks, Chris. I agree absolutely - it's a 'dollars for time' exchange that may or may not make sense for an individual... and needs to be tracked as such.

    All success
    Dr.Mani
  • Milena Regos
    Thank you for the post. It sounds time consuming at first but I believe it's all worth it in the long run.
  • re "What do you think?"

    I think that I am very, very thankful that there are others [translate like YOU] out there that are "pioneering" this process!

    As a "publishing professional" and longtime marketer, I must be informed, up-to-date, and "cutting edge" to best serve my clients. That said, getting quickly up-to-speed and "functioning in the flow" of the new social media is a MUST not an option.

    I am thrilled by all of the new connection opportunities that social media offers.
    And, I am relieved and quite resoundingly appreciative to be able to learn from the shared and generous wisdom of those that are paving the way...

    And, alas, I have some chores to get busy on! ...about 19 of them!
    "19 Presence Management Chores..."

    Thank you Chris!
  • Chris, Thanks for those helpful tips. I can make use a couple of it! Keep up the good work.
  • While I'll agree with the majority of your suggestions, Chris, isn't using an automated tool kinda defeating the object? Okay, it might build your numbers by automatically following everyone that connects with you, but that's just adding bots and spammy accounts.

    I would have thought this goes against the whole "make it personal" point you're trying to make here?
  • These are fantastice reccomendations -- and I could help but notice each task is really about authentic interaction. That's the thing about social media -- you can't fake the funk for long.
  • Chris,

    Thanks for your simple and great for putting the social in social media.

    Best,
    Tony
  • Jack
    I'm not convinced that an online presence is equal to dollars, or for that matter better relationships with the people around you.
    I concede its worked for Mr. Brogan, but that's his stock and trade.
  • woo, so many comments.
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